France: ISIS butchers behead Catholic priest, 86, ‘while shouting Allahu Akbar’

We already have the spying program in place, however instead of actually looking at REAL POTENTIAL TERRORISTS they focus on spying on patriot groups....... Perhaps we use those resources properly?

Are you denying these Islamic extremists and terrorists are hypocrites?

 

No.. I am not kidding. I lived in Saudi Arabia for many years.. They do not stone anyone.

They have purged their mosques of radical preachers and are fighting radicals every day.. ISIS has pulled off 29 terrorist attacks in the kingdom in the past two years.

They don't fund any imams in Europe or the US or send them to Europe and the US and they suggest that instead of complaining shut down radical mosques and if they are Saudi Imams, kick them out of the country.

You'd rather (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) than LISTEN to what Muslims are saying about radical Muslims.. they call them savages and perverts.

So do something about the radicals, you will get support from the Arab world.

 

But you just don't know yet.Right.Just like Obama doesn't know just yet
how big a Threat Isis. Or Isil er as Kerry calls them Daesh.
How about you Go to War with the leaders or leader you have.
I bet that is comforting to know for those like Ambassador Stevens parents.

 

Funny how you're the only one saying this and all the videos and human rights organizations are "wrong"...

Oh, we've been trying to do something about terrorism, it seems when we attack terrorists progressives go "oh you're just creating more terrorism"...

It's not exactly like terrorists walk around with signs that say "we're terrorists"...

Also, don't give me this BS about "oh the Arab world or Islamic world" would applaud if you actually attacked terrorism when many Muslims who aren't terrorists themselves SUPPORT TERRORISM, they support radial Sharia... So one doesn't have to be a "terrorist" to continue the terrorists agenda...

And NO, I'm not going to welcome terrorism into the United States if it means 15% of the refugees are actually honest and want to be normal US citizens....

 

It's funny, we tried to give these Muslims "western culture" in their nations, yet they rejected "western culture" there, but now all of a sudden these "refugees" actually want western culture??

These Muslims DON'T WANT WESTERN CULTURE - they want to EXPAND MUSLIM CULTURE AND SHARIA....

Don't any of you see this????

Now if the MAJORITY of Muslims actually wanted peace and western culture - wouldn't have they adopted it when we tried to give it to them?

 

Was that before or after you lived in Tripoli.?
I bet if I go back far enough I can find about 11 places you swore to have
lived.

 

The police can't do anything preventative under French law, so the only cure for this in Europe is vigilantism. I don't like it, but the alternative is standing by waiting for the next atrocity.

The French man in the street lost his nerve a long time ago. That said, if I were a young muslim male, I would fear working class Germans. I think they're tired of this.

 

Isis or al-Qaeda is not concerned with culture.They are a Jihad movement to
wipe the Infidel off planet Earth.

 

No way.How about a State snitch hotline where anyone can call in
anonymously and rat out possible nefarious Muslim activity.Or Community Watch
efforts.Armed and with HD cell phone video.

 

Community Watch definitely. Just calling and snitching on every suspicious person would tax police forces beyond their capability. I also think they need a conceal/carry law in France. As it is, a nut with a machine gun can start shooting and empty his magazine till law enforcement is notified AND arrives. I want people who have undergone background checks armed with 9 mm automatics and moving around in our towns and cities. Think of it as an auxiliary police force. If we don't fear cops, and I don't, then we need more of them or people who can meaningfully help them.

 

How would that help?

I'm an atheist by the way, but I don't see how that would curb Islamic extremism.

 

Actually we can make them leave as easily as we let them in.

 

We may never know the killers true motives.

 

Politicians who support another war under current rules of engagement and leadership will be swept out of office.

 

Yes that policy was so successful it led to 9/11.... and we are STILL in Afghanistan.

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I am going to guess you are trying to deflect this thread to Christianity instead of the lastest Islamic attack.

 

They.... can....

Next strawman or off topic nonsense.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgRE5upxvAU

Secular eh?

This girl goes to a doctor who tells her she is Vitamin D deficient and her clothing is part of the problem... Imagine that..

Sitting next to a boy in class? Omg the horror!

They dont want to be part of the cultures of these countries... There is no melting pot concept for them.. They want to be the pot...

 

Only if you're a racist cop killer or a jihadist screaming "Allahu Akhbar!"...

 

"We mustn't judge too quickly!"
~ Barack The Cautious (unless is a US incident he can racialize)

 

Isn't this showing how smart the ISIS scum and bastards are acting at least?
Their strategy was and is to cause fear at Western people against them and to create hate on the complete Islam, because they are loosing ground and support in the ME.
So obviously their strategy works when the general hate against Islam at all is so much growing when more and more call all Muslims to be bastards, scum, animals and whatever else.
Hey, look how you are treated by these Western un-cultural bastards ... we are your brothers, follow us and we will kick of these Western bastards from the earth!

Well done ...

 

By killing defenseless old men?

All this shows is what Muslims and non-Muslims around the world already know - ISIS is a genocidal takfirist blood cult.

Let me ask you this, Mandelus:

Are you afraid? Has Caliph Ibrahim's death cult changed your opinion of Islam and all Muslims?

I understand what you're getting at, but there's a flip-side to that, too.

When Muslims see that the takfirist blood cult that would just as soon slit their throats as the Westerners around them is responsible for instigating the resentments that the Islamic State is creating, they know who is to blame for the situation - the Islamic State.

This is precisely why our leaders - most particularly my cowardly, Islamophobic president - have to speak clearly and openly about the Islamic State and its ideology so that the majority of Muslims who oppose them don't get lumped in with that cult and its ideology.

There's no need to despair. Their strategy is not working, and their failing recruitment is testimony to that fact.

However, the fecklessness of our leaders and their bungling policies aren't doing us any favors. They say we are at war with ISIS when in fact they are not at war with ISIS.

 

Could you specify which countries?

 

Yes, by doing this, diving with a truck into people, attacking train passengers with an axe or bombing theirself inside peoples etc. This all cause fear to people …

Yes, I am afraid of course, but not this way that I will quail for fear or so, but you are be more aware of issues around you.
No, it has not change my general opinion about Islam and Muslims. In every religion are minorities who are extreme in their believing and becoming scum.
For me does religion of people not matter, because every terrorist will reason his terror on something he founds … the Bible, the Koran, the communist books of Marx & Engels / Lenin / Stalin, “Mein Kampf” from Hitler ... or whatever stuff.

My opinion is the same as that of the Prussian King Frederic the Great over 250 years ago: “Everyone should be happy in my country, no matter on which god he believes, only important is that our rules, values and law is followed full!

I understand what you're getting at, but there's a flip-side to that, too.

Looking on the total picture of it, it is fact that most victims in number are other Muslims. Look on latest bombing in Kabul, done by whom? ISIS, who is in war with Taliban and Al Qaida too!
I will not go to deep in it all, but the history of Islamic terror, reasons and how the development is, is very interesting!

And yes … we must only look on Syria and how the complete involved West showed incompetence and mistakes to handle ISIS threat and the civil war in all. I have the opinion that the West has not yet understood how dangerous the ISIS is!

Right this failing recruitments and military defeats in the ME is the reason for the enforced bombing and terror actions in Europe and the USA…. With goal to cause fear and anger on Islam in these countries!

Let me say … they are only with a quarter ass in war and not with the necessary power and possibilities to eliminate this scum. It is more like a Phony War they make.

 

You don't appear to be afraid to me, Mandelus, and you're not exhibiting any irrational responses that would indicate that you are afraid.

I'll tell you who does appear to be afraid - our leaders.

Their slavish devotion to political correctness has paralyzed them with fear.

Their ignorant and misguided notions of what causes Islamist extremism has paralyzed them with fear.

Their lack of personal and political courage has paralyzed them with fear.

Here in America, we're more concerned with the cowards in Washington than the cowards in the Islamic State. The imbeciles who run around screaming "Islamophobia!" at the drop of a hat are also a huge problem. They've made people afraid to report suspicious activity to the authorities, and that fear kept police from preventing the massacre in San Bernadino, California.

Personally, I think the fear factor is vastly overstated, and it has been used by people who don't want to do anything about ISIS (President Obama, et al) as an excuse to do nothing.

It's my impression that most people are angry, disgusted and determined, not afraid, but there are people who dishonestly confuse that anger, disgust and determination with fear in order to avoid confronting the problem of ISIS in specific and Islamist extremism in general.

 

Al Jubeir calls ISIS criminals, psychopaths and perverts.

http://www.euronews.com/2016/07/21/...-a-gang-of-criminals-psychopaths-and-perverts