France: ISIS butchers behead Catholic priest, 86, ‘while shouting Allahu Akbar’

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  1. Margot2

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    al Jubeir said that if you find Muslims preaching hatred in Mosque, shut them down and if they are Saudis throw them out of the country. Is that so difficult to understand?
     
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    What's the point in attacking Muslims who are not radical and who want ISIS to die? Makes no sense
     
  3. Gaius_Marius

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    The French have been quite tough on that actually. They have pursued much stricter secularism laws than most other countries. Indeed it has been debated for a while now whether those policies actually hurt them.

    http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/01/16/to-become-french-leave-your-identity-behind/

    Here is an article from 2005 that highlights the differences between the UK and France.
    http://www.euractiv.com/section/sec...ulturalism-what-integration-model-for-europe/
     
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    Allahu is not so Akbar these days. Maybe he needs a new press secretary, those ISIS guys suck at it.
     
  5. YouLie

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    Let Christians off the hook for what? I thought we were talking about terrorism.
     
  6. Nordic Democrat

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    Iraq distabilized the region and enabled this to happen. Not calling it Islamic fascism is a disservice to those who want to fight this. Bombing them and being ignorant about it won't solve it. It never does. What we need is to promote secularism, and to have immigrants understand they are in a secular country, and if they don't like it, there is the door.

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    Religious fundamentalism. You can't say Islam is stupid but believe God created the earth in 7 days. Those beliefs also lead to terror, in the form of warfare.

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    Exactly! Glad you posted these. This is what we should continue to do, pass laws like this, etc.
     
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    Well, if these hypothetical "vigilantes" start harassing innocent Muslims, immigrants, refugees, etc., then yes, they'll be bad guys.

    Obviously France gambled big and lost big by taking in so many of these people. Same with Germany.
     
  8. YouLie

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    Oh, well, since the Saudi diplomat said it to the American press and/or State Department, that's good enough for me.

    Hate is a pretty subjective word, especially between cultures separated by continents, isn't it?
     
  9. Gaius_Marius

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    Well... The problem is that it seems to have worked the opposite. Letting people integrate at their own pace as in the UK and the US does seems to work better than the French model of forcing people to become secular and French. There are of course a lot of thing is play. The past has a lot to say as well... But it does seem like the French model has created more resentment in later generations than in countries that pursue a different model.
     
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    France wasn't part of Iraq, so that dog don't hunt. Its because the whole creation of ISIS was Obama's desire to remove Assad, and France did back Obama in arming terrorists in Syria. Odd how that worked out eh? This is nothing more than the unraveling of liberal lies at the cost of innocent lives and the lives of French people...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_involvement_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War
     
  11. YouLie

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    I don't care if you believe God created Earth in SIX, not seven days, or if you believe Mickey Mouse created it in one day, or if you believe star dust created it in an infinite number of days; as long as you're not killing people like Muslims, believe whatever you want.
     
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    If you think Muslims are the only religious killers, you're ignorant.

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    You obviously read nothing I wrote.

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    Well those conservative religious people should leave France then. Europe, and the west, are secular. We shouldn't tolerate anyone who doesn't want that.
     
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    If you think Christians pose the same threat as Muslims, you're ignorant.
     
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    Well... That is a bit complicated given that many are there legally as former subjects from their colonies.
    Forcing people to assimilate into a culture is quite Fascist in nature. At the least very old school romanticism. I do not agree that is the right model. Besides. The EU has pledged to work for minorities and freedom of religion. Whether Muslim or Catalan.

    I'm afraid time and education is the solution.
     
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    "Christian fundies" aren't running around slaughtering people....

    I find it funny how progressives like you can't see the difference and the only way you can even ACKNOWLEDGE Islamic terrorism is by saying (*)(*)(*)(*) like "secularism in general"....

    Is this some political game to you or something? I mean Muslims are running around killing people EVERY DAY in the name of ISLAM and you progressives defend them for POLITICAL REASONS... This (*)(*)(*)(*) may as well be a video game to you..
     
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    Yes, 99.9% of religious terrorist attacks are committed by Muslims or in retaliation against Muslim attacks...

    Here are the Islamic terrorism stats from this month alone and the month isn't even over yet.

    www.thereligionofpeace.com

    Attacks: 238
    Killed: 2055
    Injured: 2006
    Suicide Blasts: 43
    Countries: 33

    Indeed radical Sharia loving Muslims should be booted from France, however I don't believe you agree with that....
     
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    I think if they (or anyone) do not want to live in a secular country, they should leave. I hope you also realize most of those attacks are attacking other muslims....
     
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    If you Americans were truly secular it would be legal for atheists to freely run for congress.
     
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    Go ahead provide some citations on this "problem" because I don't believe you.....

    Even if it was true, have 2000+ gays been murdered this month by Christians?????

    Also, to add insult to your stupid (*)(*)(*)(*)ing "see you do it too" argument - Muslims murder gays in bunches EVERY DAY and it's not even considered terrorism...
     
  20. Talon

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    I'm not a Christian, either, so that's beside the point.

    We're not promoting anything enough and promoting secularism is only part of the equation.
     
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    No one is stopping an atheist from running for congress in the United States.
     
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    Well, he does have a point, African non-Muslims do tend to act much like Muslims, they still have Gay killings, Witch killings, and Slavery much like you see in Arab countries.
     
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    The foreign minister of Saudi Arabia agrees with you.

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    American pastor Scott Lively spent a lot of time in Africa promoting the killing of gays.
     
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    What, do you really think I care because they're killing non-Muslims? These people are killing people and that is all that matters and they should be destroyed.. The problem is that progressives around the world are defending these animals and it's disgusting..

    Yea, all Muslims that aren't natural citizens in any European country should be deported back to their nation of origin immediately!!

    What the hell is the point of taking refugees in if they bring the terrorism (they claim to be running from) with them?????? What is the (*)(*)(*)(*)ING POINT???
     
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    Not only have atheists run for Congress they have served in Congress.

    Pete Stark, who was openly atheist, served for 40 years in the U.S. House of Representatives.
     

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