Assad and Russian siege of Aleppo has failed!

Now the fight is still ongoing and this could change at any moment, but for now it seems that the rebels have succeeded in breaking the Russian/Assad siege and captured a major artillery base as well. Thousands of Aleppo citizens have taken to the streets to celebrate. Maybe now aid can arrive for the quarter million civilians the Russians were trying to exterminate.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/37000570

 

Wasn't is mere few weeks ago after pulling out of Syria, that the big mouth Putin practically claimed victory?

 

I do believe so. I also recall several members of this forum claiming the war would be over by this weekend. Not going so well for them.

 

Russia is the problem in Syria....had they not attacked the rebels and instead gone after ISIS as they claimed they would, maybe the genocidal dictator....the guy who launched poison gas attacks on his own people...would be gone and things might have started to settle down!

 

You're right the terrorists are cheering, or at least they're pretending considering7,000 were killed. The agony on the children's faces tell it all.

As for the poor Syrians, they don't dare try to escape for fear of being killed. Three civilians were shot yesterday. Fortunately the Russians are not giving up and are using trucks to get food into the city since the shoot down of their helicopter.

The battle was ferocious, but the terrorists continue to be recruited... probably from the Central Asian States, and keep pouring into Syria. Its hard on the Syrian army which is trying to defend its land and people from the animals because they are being given heavy American arms and the Syrians have so few men left.

 

Looks like the US, got some more sophisticated arms in to the radical muslims.

We would rather see a Syria run by radicals than a secular gov't.

There are no moderate muslims fighting Syria. That is a ruse, propaganda by the US. And Americans are so dumbed down by propaganda that they do not know their arses from a hole in the ground.

It is an embarrassment to the minority of americans who know what reality is. Americans used to be smarter than this. Today, we just mostly have American Fools. Who are not smart enough to recognize propaganda tactics when used on them. People need to learn what propaganda tactics, structures are. Than when you see the classic ones, you know someone is trying to make a fool out of ya. These were laid down in detail by Goebels in Nazi Germany long ago. In public school when I went, in the 1950s, we were taught what technique were used. So we could spot it quickly. But Civics was mandatory too. Now, neither are taught, which turns out idiots, which is what the regime we live under needs.

It really is an embarrassment.

 

That's NOT what the article says, but you'll keep on cheering for Hillary Clinton's armed ISIS anyway.

 

I do believe that only mentally challenged or intellectually restricted people could possibly celebrate and cheer any ‘victory’ achieved by Sunni extremist forces. One has got to be one of them or intellectually restricted person completely incapable of comprehending the possible consequences of their win in that part of the Middle East.
By the way, civilian population in the government controlled Aleppo outnumber civilians under Sunni extremists control 7:1. Get a grip on reality.

U.S. Considers "Pause" In Supplies For Group Beheading Sick Child
http://www.moonofalabama.org/

This is what some U.S posters here stand for. Time to examine their heads.

 

Hillary's "moderates" cut off little children's heads while laughing and shouting radical slogans.

 

Russia defends the genocidal dictator Assad on every front and at every opportunity.... such as vetoing UN Security Council resolutions to have the International Criminal Court to investigate the Syria "President" for war crimes and blocking a series of UN resolutions that would have levied sanctions on his country resulting from a number of atrocities against his own people.

 

^ Another ISIS supporter.

 

"Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result." -Winston Churchill

 

Oh yes Mission Accomlished!

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What!, !! .?. Putin said he was fighting ISIS,

 

http://syria.liveuamap.com/
I would not claim rebel victory just yet. A lot of progress they have made have been on fortified positions with the use of SVIED's (Suicide Bombers) which are better on the offensive rather than used for defense. As I have stated before the jihadists have trouble holding territory for extended periods during this week long process, it is unlikely they can hold ground and maintain what some fantasize as a humanitarian corridor. This route is also not the best as it mostly cuts off the Regimes supply lines to west Aleppo and has little way of access (roads) to bring in true relief for East Aleppo unless you consider weapons to be a needed commodity.

As it stands the route through the military colleges is still an active war zone, its not safe for people to leave through that route if it is their intentions as it will be heavy bombed from the air until Government forces can reclaim it. It would it be a smart for the rebels to push civilians to leave through that corridor as a form of propaganda against the Syrian regime.

Syrian rebels breaking Aleppo siege
http://aranews.net/2016/08/syrian-rebels-breaking-aleppo-siege/
“There are two suicide bombers who have driven into regime posts inside the artillery base,” said Abu al-Walid, a fighter with Ahrar al Sham, who said there was fighting inside the base.
Hundreds of fighters were clashing with government troops only a few hundred meters from each other in parts of the artillery base after breaking into government defenses around the heavily fortified compound, rebels said.
More than 500 rebels and government forces have been killed in one week of fierce fighting to control the Syrian city of Aleppo.

An army statement later said it had succeeded in containing the attack with help of allied forces and destroyed three explosive laden suicide vehicles. Reinforcements from pro-government militias were also coming to shore up army positions.

Attack by Syrian insurgents aimed at breaking Aleppo siege
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/...nsurgents-aimed-at-breaking-aleppo-siege.html
An unnamed military official told state news agency SANA that “large numbers” of militants had attacked the military college in southern Aleppo, adding that government forces were defending the sprawling base. SANA said the militant offensive was preceded by a number of car bombs that struck the area.

Syrian Rebels Break Through Aleppo Siege Amid Heavy Fighting
http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/1.735516
The heavy fighting and airstrikes reported from the area seemed to indicate any passage that may have been opened would be far from secure enough for civilians to travel through.

Syria’s rebels unite to break Assad’s siege of Aleppo
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/06/syria-rebels-unite-break-aleppo-siege
A Syrian military academy in the heart of Aleppo made for a bold, even reckless target for opposition forces trying to break a devastating siege, but the rebels gambled on a double advantage: surprise and suicide bombers. Soon the rebels were sharing pictures of abandoned artillery and a smashed portrait of President Bashar al-Assad on Twitter, flaunted as triumphant proof that the army was routed and opposition forces were within a few hundred metres of their besieged comrades.

The victory is a fragile one. The area is still a conflict zone and it may be some time before a secure corridor for food and medical supplies can be set up, and the regime has called in reinforcements.
“We expect revenge bombing by the regime, including, possibly, chemical weapons,” said Zaher Sahloul, a Syrian-American doctor who coordinates medical aid in the city.

Syrian Rebels Break Through Aleppo Siege
http://www.wsj.com/articles/syrian-rebels-break-through-aleppo-siege-1470504914
Syrian state media denied that rebels had taken parts of the road and reported that the air force was intensifying its strikes on “terrorists,” the term it uses to refer to much of the opposition.
The rebel advance was aided in part by suicide bombers from the Syria Conquest Front, the new name taken on by Nusra Front after it announced severing of ties with al Qaeda.
In another battle in northeast Aleppo province, U.S.-backed Kurdish and Arab fighters denied that they had seized full control of the city of Manbij from Islamic State militants.

 

Of course Russia stands by genocidal scum turds after all shy wouldn,t a scum turd cheer gencjdal killer

 

In Greekdefense net it said that the terrorists lost about 7,000 men in the battle, but it might have been an exaggeration since the terrorists combined force was about 9,000.. As for the chemical attack, the Syrian army doesn't have chemicals. Russia cleaned out their supply after they had been falsely accused by Obama so he could bomb Damascus. The attack last week in Aleppo came from the terrorist held area. ..although the Americans are wroth to admit it.

I know that the Russian jets killed about 800 in response to the aid helicopter that was shot down. Russian aid is still going into the city by trucks. As for the passageways the Russians opened up so the people could leave, only about three hundred managed to get out. Yesterday, three civilians that tried to leave were killed.

 

Agony on children's faces? They are celebrating you fool! The very picture you just posted shows that. Lmfao how thick are you?

Yes we all know what Russian "aid" is. Just like the "aid" they sent into Ukriane. Why can't you just admit that Assad doesn't not give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about his people? He is just trying to keep his head and his throne. And Russia is more then happy to commit genicide on hundreds of thousands to help him do that.

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"There are no moderate rebels in Syria." I stopped reading after that.

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Yes it does. (*)(*)(*)(*) Hillary. The rebels the article is talking about fight against Isis. Not every Muslim is in Isis.

 

And your only source for all this 'good news' is from where, the western mainstream press? Oh well then it must be true, mustn't it? FFS! You're so naive it frightens me!

 

ararmer to Jeannette post 17

Jesus H, ararmer, have you no self-perception? Didn't you think of the irony of it when you posted that? It's like the dunce of a school classroom accusing the headmaster of being stupid!

 

Name them. the moderates who will bring peace and justice to the entire population of Syria including Shia muslims, Christians and all the other minority groups who were previously living in Syria and removed by jihadist Sunni rebels before the conflict started (yes that did happen).
**Please refrain from using Sunni jihadist groups while your at it (they are not moderates), because thats the main alternative to the current Syrian government.

 

I wouldn't be so confident. Firstly there's the issue of whether the gap can be maintained, as far as we know significant reinforcements have been deployed specifically to close that gap, including elite groups such as the Tiger forces and Desert hawks. Secondly the breakthrough they've made is, much as Castello road was, completely under the fire control of the Syrian armed forces, any supplies running into the city will have to travel through a narrow stretch of land, flanked the government forces, which will mount a counterattack in coming days and could be, at any point, cut by artillery fire from either side. As for humanitarian aid, Russian forces have acted to provide assistance, flying aid in to those besieged in the city, that was one reason for the downing of the helicopter in July.

On the issue of attempting to exterminate civilians, this is really unconvincing. If that was the aim why would humanitarian corridorss have been established, their use has admittedly been limited, but only by the actions on the part of the opposition to stop those who would consider leaving from doing so, a deliberate tactic on their part, a prolonged siege with civilians trapped in the city would make military action significantly more difficult and would draw international condemnation. Clearly that civilians were left there is not the fault of either the government or the Russians when the rebels acted to stop them leaving. Either way they were given an option to flee to government held areas, where the majority, over 1 million, of the population of the city now lives. As for attempting to exterminate them, this is also not convincing. There is precedent in the capture of cities in Syria where no massacres have been committed, namely in the Old Homs agreement 2014 where civilians were allowed to withdraw from the city, along with the rebels. There were no massacres, instead there was an orderly withdrawal to rebel held areas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Homs

Those concerned about what would happen to civilians do this either as an attempt to further bash Russia, discredit the government, or just aren't informed about past attempts to do the same.

 

As for the opposition their victory isn't really anything worth celebrating. Their are a worse alternative to the regime consisting of a fractious alliance of rebel groups which includes extremists, cooperates with extremists and refuses to fight against them. Leading members of the opposition have stated that "Al-qaeda is not our problem", in fact joint operations between supposed moderates and groups such as the army of conquest have been routine.

A report by the Tony Blair Faith Foundation, hardly a pro-Russian think tank, drew an interesting conclusion on the opposition fighting against the government.

http://tonyblairfaithfoundation.org/religion-geopolitics/reports-analysis/report/if-castle-falls

These are the groups that have received western military support, and those that are being supported as part of this battle. Even if weapons are shipped to moderate groups, and this is a big if, then those weapons would still be, in some cases, used as part of joint offensives with extremists, essentially fire support for extremist groups.

The opposition also isn't one single group capable of effective government, it is a fractious alliance of different groups held together by a common objective, removing the government. Provided this is achieved it is likely that they will return to fighting among each other.

 

Strange that only media that cover these "news" are jihadist tweets, BBC and Reuters. Confirmed sources are only jihadists and Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which is a fraud.

I suggest to wait and see what actually happened, if something happened, before cheering for ISIS.

 

Are you sure about thousands? All what I can see on BBC photos from the article http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/37000570 is about 100 men on one photo. It's here:

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Moreover, if you look carefully at this photo, you'll see that despite the fact the photographer have taken quite narrow focus for his shot, even such not a big qauntity of people did not fill the whole picture and you can see empty space without people.

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I'm pretty sure this hundred of people is just trying to portray itseld as a "celebrating crowd" what is not true.

 

Does anybody see the celebrating thousands of Aleppo citizens?

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