Do Republicans have a plan for unemployment caused by automation? >>MOD WARNING<<

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  1. Evangelical357

    Evangelical357 Banned

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    Programs automate jobs like data entry, accounting. Automation automates jobs like dry dock workers and truck drivers (self-driving fleets of trucks is very likely in the near future).

    Republicans complain about people not being in the labor force.

    So what is the Republican plan to get everyone working in an economy where most jobs will become even MORE under pressure to be automated?
     
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    Yeah. Keep their nose out of private business.
     
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    The only Republican plan is to create another war and to export more jobs thereby causing still another Great Recession. Then they will call it a triumph and forum Republicans will tell us how much better off we are thanks to their party.
     
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    What's the Democrat plan? Unionize the robots and let them vote?
     
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    Bwahahahaha! Nothing like blaming what Hillary will do on Trump. Hillary is a globalist and not a friend of Americans and she is also a war monger already setting the useful idiots up for conflict with Russia.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Minimum wages don't stop automation, not sure how that effects the topic at hand. So-called living wages have a negative impact on production costs, and you cannot force developing countries to destroy their development to appease whackjob liberals in developed countries...
     
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    globalist republicans who rely on trade with other countries to get rich will allow the unemployed to either starve or join the military.

    Donald Trump republicans would impose tariffs on companies so that jobs return to America for the people who lost to automation.
     
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    What is the Democrats plan to deal with this same question?
     
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    Does the Democrats?
     
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    The majority of outsourced jobs would be replaced with automation as well. That's the problem with cheap outsourced (as well as illegal immigrant) labor, it skews the cost to benefit analysis in favor of humans. It does so artificially as well, automation and machinery will replace menial labor jobs across the board. Now on to the OP, if/when this expands, then there's more of a problem. Either way now there will be a large portion of humans in the first world that are unemployed. A problem I've not seen either party currently in any form propose a solution to.
     
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    Learn to repair the machines. Sell the machines. Lots of possibilities.
     
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    That doesn't add up since one person can manage many machines. For example, server maintenance, that's usually done by very few people, comparatively to the number of servers. Selling these machines can be done also with very few people. The point: Jobs maintaining or selling the machines won't replace the number of jobs lost to them.
     
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    Good luck with that. Liberals are more interested in teaching 'diversity' and perpetuating white guilt than actual life skills like math, reading, or robotic repair...

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    Good luck with that. Liberals are more interested in teaching 'diversity' and perpetuating white guilt than actual life skills like math, reading, or robotic repair...
     
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    Wow, your projection is astounding. This ^ is what the dems have been doing since the last Clinton. And its always been the leftist socialist countries that have let people starve if they didn't work. Not once do you see the 100s of millions of dead Americans in the early 1900s before the min wage as you saw in the USSR or China. The strawman of the "starving poor" is the ultimate projection of how socialism has worked many times over.

    Most automation is at the min wage jobs places where it is more cost efficient. And we still don't have automated repair bots, so along with automation comes new jobs and skill sets needed for them. But that would require an education, and that's something the left hates for its voting base.
     
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    How is this guaranteed minimum wage paid for?
     
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    The richest countries in the world farm their natural resources. We however, thanks to democrats, have been killing those jobs or selling the rights to mine to foreign entities like Hillary and Russia.
     
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    So what about Hillary's plan to punish companies that outsource? Guess when a Democrat does it, its a good thing. /derp
     
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    And which bathroom will they use?

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    That's wrong. Its not a simple fix for the machines. One person might be able to fix the entire unit by swapping out one or two parts, but those parts will need to be repaired to cut costs. And the programing will also need updating and fixing and specialization to each region or store. The machines just replace low skilled jobs with higher skilled jobs. Yeah, probably wont be the same amount of people overall, but the people who are working are making a lot more. And there are still many other jobs the low skilled workers can go do. Still need people to pick strawberries and other migrant worker jobs that are still more costly to automate. Wonder if you'd be the same person crying about the dishwasher in restaurants replacing hand washed dishes? Its funny with people who call themselves "progressives" but everything they are griping about holds us back from actually progressing technically.

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    By printing money on the automated printing press.
     
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    I'm not sure where the whining or crying was in my post you're responding to. What I'm trying to do with this flawed OP is get a discussion of what to do with the inevitable unemployment rate resulting from automating and machinery, which is where I think low skilled labor should go.

    What makes switching strawberry picking jobs more costly is that, right now it's cheaper to higher illegal immigrants, making it more profitable not to use machinery. American labor costs much more than that of illegal immigrants. Once the artificial factors that sway cost to benefit in favor of human labor is gone, it will be done by machine and automated.
     
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    Guaranteed minimum wage means EVERYONE is paid a wage regardless, I suggest you look it up. It's being worked on by Harvard Economists, London School of Economics, etc. Because NOTHING stops Automation.

    Automation is infinitely superior to human labor.

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    You're talking about a segment of the job market that is maybe a few million people.

    So you're saying that EVERYONE will be fully employed doing what only a few million people do now?

    I honestly think Republicans NEVER go from A-Z when they do the alphabet, they stop somewhere around D or F.
     
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    How will this be paid for? With scarcity still existing and probably will still exist post singularity, how will humans live without working?
     
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    I didn't say "you", I said "they". "They are griping..."

    Here is the best machine for picking strawberries.

    strawberry-picking-machine-with-foreign-workers-harvests-inside-polytunnel-ag4fr4.jpg
     
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    Paid a wage for what? Existing? No economy can function that way, and certainly not when you have competition from other nations that don't support or follow such idiocy. Automation is still only a very small part of the overall labor potential found within the global economic market. There is still almost unlimited human potential. The real problem here isn't automation, its unqualified, uneducated humans that can't compete with other humans...
     
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    Are you talking about migrant workers? There are roughly 12-30 million illegals doing jobs right now, and that is still not enough to collect every fruit from the farms. A lot of berries are hanging on the bush because not enough people are there to pick them.
     

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