You Can’t Whitewash The Alt-Right’s Bigotry

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  1. TomFitz

    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    This guy isn't a liberal. Liberals wouldn't waste their time trying to intellectualize knuckle dragging rubes.

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    The tea partiers entertained themselves with similar delusions.

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    Not only that, but there's a substantial body of evidence to support it, including the demographics of Fox and the dying Limbaugh program.
     
  2. justlikethat

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    Dude, it's to the point where few people believe the crap let alone give a sh..
     
  3. cupAsoup

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    When the southern, white racists who make up the majority of the republican party stop being racist bufoons, I imagine the accusations will stop. It must be as tiring as hearing the 'low information' voter line. Do you have access to information that liberals do not that makes you more informed? Share this magnificent resource with the world if you please.
     
  4. RP12

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    That's like calling all liberals transgenders!
     
  6. BestViewedWithCable

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  7. tsuke

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    it is a movement. Why do you think #thechalkening is so big? Do you think the kids nowadays are suddenly becoming neocons? :p

    Alt right is a movement for nationalism in economy and foreign policy and liberalism in culture.
     
  8. cupAsoup

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    It's really not.
     
  9. superbadbrutha

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    Interesting to say the least.
     
  10. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    Here's more from the conservative pjmedia:

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/08/26/6-chilling-facts-about-the-alt-right/?singlepage=true

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    6 Chilling Facts About the Alt-Right
    BY WALTER HUDSON AUGUST 26, 2016 CHAT 781 COMMENTS

    (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)
    During her speech in Nevada on Wednesday, Hillary Clinton did more to defend conservatism and the Republican Party than have many Republicans during this election cycle. Delivering remarks which some expected to broadly smear conservatives with the taint of a racist few, Clinton showed restraint. Describing the racialist alt-right, which has embedded itself within the Donald Trump campaign, Clinton was surgical:

    Alt-Right is short for “Alternative Right.”
    The Wall Street Journal describes it as a loosely organized movement, mostly online, that “rejects mainstream conservatism, promotes nationalism and views immigration and multiculturalism as threats to white identity.”

    The de facto merger between Breitbart and the Trump Campaign represents a landmark achievement for the “Alt-Right.” A fringe element has effectively taken over the Republican Party.

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    At the beginning of the year, few outside the political wonk class were familiar with the alt-right. Consisting primarily of social media trolls and a handful of personality cultists, there was little reason to take the fringe movement seriously.

    The Alt-Right Is Evil and Must Be Opposed
    Then Donald Trump began to steamroll his way through the Republican presidential primaries, and this little known movement of neo-reactionaries grew exponentially more relevant. Today, as Clinton points out, the alt-right has successfully staged a coup within the Republican Party. Leveraging partisan loyalty, the alt-right has drawn tacit support for their horrific worldview from people who would never otherwise condone it. If you don't want Hillary to win, you must support Donald Trump, the argument goes. The only problem is that, by doing so, you also support by proxy the alt-right which his candidacy has come to represent.


    Here are 6 chilling facts about the alt-right:

    1. They Are White Nationalists (a.k.a Racists)
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    Adherents of the alt-right often deny their racism. They scoff at the label "white supremacist," quick to correct critics and instead claim the label "nationalist." They do not necessarily believe that white people are better than others, or at least they try not to say so explicitly. Instead, they believe that white people hold a collective right to exist in a majority white nation.

    It's a distinction with some difference, but proves equally immoral. Whether white supremacist or white nationalist, the underlying premise is that race has inherent value and properly ought to define social structure. They believe that the identity of a nation is defined, not by its culture, philosophy, or values, but by its racial purity.

    Congressional Candidate Put Up Billboard Reading 'Make America White Again'
    "Make America White Again," read one billboard for an independent congressional candidate in Tennessee named Rick Tyler. Citing the candidacy of Donald Trump as an inspiration, Tyler told a reporter that "the white American super majority" stands as a "great bulwark against statist tyranny." The white race is the chief value among the alt-right, not ideas, not principles, not philosophy, but race above all.

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    2. They Reject America's Founding Principles

    The alt-right rejects mainstream conservatism as known and pursued by the vast swath of traditional Republicans. Using familiar-sounding rhetoric, evoking lofty images of American greatness, they nonetheless reject the ideas upon which this nation was founded. Alt-right leader Richard Spencer makes this explicit in remarks chronicled by The Nation's Joan Walsh:

    When I [Walsh] try to argue that equality and pluralism are central to the nation’s founding documents, [Spencer] looks disgusted. “When I look at Thomas Jefferson’s writings, the Declaration of Independence, it makes me want to vomit. The idea that a ‘creator’ made all human beings equal? That’s ridiculous. The idea that all human beings are equal is such an appalling sentiment. We’re here on this earth for such a short period of time. The idea that we would dedicate ourselves to something as stupid as ‘equality’ or ‘democracy’ is morally insulting to me.”
    Spencer's comments are not an aberration. This is the man who coined the term "alt-right," a recognized thought leader within the movement, saying that the Declaration of Independence makes him nauseous.

    The Mask Comes Off: The Alt-Right Is Racist to Its Core
    It's critical to note Spencer's meaning here. Some conservatives may be tempted to join Spencer in a criticism of democracy. The United States is a republic, after all, and that is a meaningful difference. However, that is not the point which Spencer is referencing. For him, democracy is bad, not for the reasons which the Founders articulated, but because it threatens the nation's racial identity.

    3. While Vaunting "Western Civilization," They Reject Its Philosophical Basis

    The alt-right rejects the philosophical accomplishments of the Enlightenment, which led directly to the creation of the United States. They seek a return to a pre-Enlightenment paradigm defined by tribalism and brute rule. Ian Tuttle expounds, writing for National Review:

    “The Dark Enlightenment” is the name, first and foremost, of a fuzzily argued manifesto of sorts, penned by Nick Land, formerly a lecturer in continental philosophy at the University of Warwick, and another of [Breitbart writers Allum] Bokhari’s and [Milo] Yiannopoulos’s go-to “intellectuals.” Land is a more sophisticated thinker than [Jared] Taylor or [Richard] Spencer, but his “neo-reaction” is rooted in the same fundamental rejection of egalitarianism.
    One might read "rejection of egalitarianism" and think it a good thing. After all, the concept of equality has been perverted by the left into an abomination that Enlightenment thinkers never intended. However, the alt-right does not merely reject equality of outcome, equality of ability, equality of income and such. They reject equality under the law. Tuttle continues:

    Some want to put people in ovens; some just want an ability to “exit” multicultural society for an ethno-national arrangement. But they’re all in agreement: “All men are created equal” is not true.
    The alt-right abhors individualism and rejects the principle of individual rights. They are collectivists. They believe that man obtains his value only in relation to his racial tribe. They don't truly want to "make America great again." They want to go back well before the Founding to make America something it never was, a Dark Age European ethno-state.
     
  11. TheJudge

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    Wow, the term "Alt-Right" is really setting off the neo-cons.

    Guess we'll need trigger warnings and safe spaces for them.
     
  12. Surfer Joe

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    They already have Stormfront, right-wing radio and faux news.
    Isn't that enough for the lunatic fringe?
     
  13. Doug_yvr

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    "We're the platform for the alt-right," - Stephen Bannon
     
  14. MRogersNhood

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    But that Asian guy aligns himself with "alt-right" whatever that is.
    His views seem reasonable to me.
     
  15. Lil Mike

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    Interesting? Well that's one way to refer to a call for genocide, interesting.
     
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    Uh Mrs. Clinton's comments that is.
     
  17. Maddawg

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    From what I can see the alt-right is firmly against cultural liberalism, or what it would preferably call cultural marxism. Modern cultural liberalism is not something anyone with a thought-out position could get behind lol. They seem to be largely conservative on all sides. But it's a fascinating new sect and being on the right I think it supports freedom of ideas within its ranks, or at least I think/hope it does.
     
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    Everyone knows that all intellectuals congeal in the radical left. Take the intellectual bill ayers. His genocidal hatred towards people who don't think like him, and therefore are idiots is matched only by Hitler, Stalin, and Lenin combined. This Obama sidekick once said that people from the right need to be rounded up and put in reeducation camps, and if they are uneducable, then they will have to be eliminated. He estimated that at least 25 million people (all white Christians) would have to be eliminated before his version of a new inclusive and tolerant society could come to fruition. I find this all so intellectually stimulating.
     
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    Nationalism is only a good thing when it is whipped up to convince people to lay their lives on the line for their country. Sacrificing your life for your country is good nationalism. Nationalistic ideas like putting America first in economic and foreign policies is bad nationalism. Be careful about exposing your 'bad' nationalism. You will be called an idiot, bigot and racist and will be put on a list of people who potentially might have to be sent to reeducation camps or just simply eliminated. Don't for a minute think that the reeducaters will all be genocidal left-wingers either. There are plenty of neocons that would love to put the lives of your sons and daughters on the line to defend the interests of international corporations.
     
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    All races in all monocultural societies like China, Japan, and all Asian societies, and countries on the African continent, some countries of South, and Central America--including Mexico take for granted their right to live in ethnically, and culturally similar societies. Only nationalist in countries in the west are being accused of wanting to go back to a "Dark Age European ethno-state" because they too want to live in ethnically and culturally similar societies.

    I have heard the Dark Ages weren't as 'dark' as our leftist history books tell us; and besides, after the Dark Ages we had the Renaissance which occurred only in moncultural Europe--that monoculturalism being that all of the intellectuals, artists and musicians of that era were all white, and came from countries with a Christian/Judeo culture. The strange infusion of brilliance that occurred during the Renaissance was not dependent on a conglomeration of hundreds of little ethnic cultures who all contributed to the clearer thinking of the times.

    See above. America contributed an outstanding amount of new technology to the world during a time when the vast majority of people were of the same cultural heritage. Once again, that infusion of brilliance that occurred in the first half of the Twentieth Century was not dependent on contributions made by a menagerie of different cultures.
     
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    You floated the balloon and it didn't sail. Give up and move on. No one ever heard of alt right and no one cares.
     
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    Straight out of the Saul Alinski play book. When you can win in the issues create a strawman group.
     

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