Shimon Peres: Israel’s Nuclear Weapons Architect has died

Discussion in 'Middle East' started by Jazz, Sep 29, 2016.

  1. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2010
    Messages:
    25,273
    Likes Received:
    1,633
    Trophy Points:
    113
    they may not have a choice, the only veto to nuclear weapons use in the region is Russia who is not an ally of iran.

    since Trump is good friends with Russia, they may work something out to avoid any escalation of conflicts.
     
  2. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,114
    Likes Received:
    1,192
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    There is a nice little book available in German...
    [​IMG]
    "The Eleventh Commandment: Israel is allowed to do anything it wants."
    Clear-text about antisemitism and Israel critic.
    Written by a Jewish lady, Evelyn Hecht-Galinsky, who's father spent time in Auschwitz and other Concentration Camps, but was one of the lucky ones who survived.
    I mean to show that there are also normal, clear-thinking Jews in the world!:wink:
     
  3. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2010
    Messages:
    46,383
    Likes Received:
    15,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Indeed. That is why everybody who is somebody is in Israel today, honoring the memory of the last of Israel founding fathers. Even Abbas.

    And US flags are flying at half staff. For once, Obama dome something right.

    RIP, hero.
     
  4. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2014
    Messages:
    32,222
    Likes Received:
    12,253
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Heaven and hell are real. It's been scientifically proven.
     
  5. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2007
    Messages:
    63,174
    Likes Received:
    4,995
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Russia is not ally of Iran? Now I know you have no ide what you are talking about.
     
  6. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,114
    Likes Received:
    1,192
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    What about Holland and Germany? Are they also flying their flags at half mast?
     
  7. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2010
    Messages:
    46,383
    Likes Received:
    15,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I'm sure UK and the Saudis also not doing it. WTF is your point?
     
  8. HBendor

    HBendor New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2009
    Messages:
    12,043
    Likes Received:
    60
    Trophy Points:
    0
    70 delegations from around the world are attending the funeral, yet some fat brains are still finding some childish resistance to their participation. (The Oslo Accord apparently is not enough and has not done enough to persuade these gents to follow the Peace agreement or Oslo Accord.

    The refusal of Israel’s Arab lawmakers, therefore, was upsetting to Peres’ son-in-law and physician, Dr. Rafi Walden.

    “I am surprised and disappointed by them,” he told Channel 2 News. “There was a famous saying of [late Israeli diplomat] Abba Eban that the Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. This time, the Arabs of Israel, unfortunately, are missing an unprecedented opportunity to express their appreciation for a man who did more than any other person in Israel to bring peace and love between Jews and Arabs, both within Israel and between Israel and its neighbors, and it’s a real shame.”

    Furthermore, Walden said, the Arab MKs refusing to attend Peres’ funeral are “causing hostility,” instead of taking the “opportunity to express their solidarity with that segment of Israeli society that extends its hand to them” in peace.
     
  9. SamSkwamch

    SamSkwamch Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2016
    Messages:
    2,246
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Peres was a war criminal and psychopath.
     
  10. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,114
    Likes Received:
    1,192
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    WTF... I am only wondering, if Germany and Holland, both friends of Israel, are also flying their flags at half mast.
     
  11. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,114
    Likes Received:
    1,192
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Mister Bendor, don't you have any sense of the pain and suffering the Palestinians are subjected to on a daily basis? You stole their land by brutal force, you killed their children and you have 7000 of them locked up in miserable jails where they get tortured and mishandled.
    Now Peres' son-in-law accuses them of "causing hostility"!! :roll: Why not accuse them of antisemitism as well, the standard label for anyone who doesn't agree with you?
    May I ask, would you have attended Hitler's funeral to express your "appreciation", if you were in that position?
     
  12. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,114
    Likes Received:
    1,192
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Exactly! That is also how the Palestinians feel...

    Hundreds of people in the impoverished and Israeli-blockaded Gaza Strip have staged a demonstration against the Israeli regime and to protest the participation of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in the funeral of former Israeli president Shimon Peres.
    They also sprayed Israel's flag on the street with the Arabic sentence, “Death to Israel.”

    “We are against the participation of Palestine's delegation in the funeral of Peres, because Peres was a killer of Gaza's children and he made a lot of wars and massacres against our children and our people in the Gaza Strip,” said a protester, identified as Abu Moumen.


    http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/0...est-Mahmoud-Abbas-participation-Peres-funeral
    --------------------
    Abu Moumen will now be on the IDF hitlist, I'm sure.
    To be fair, Peres shouldn't be singled out... he is not the only Israeli leader who massacred Palestinians.
     
  13. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2010
    Messages:
    46,383
    Likes Received:
    15,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Dunno. Are they?
     
  14. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2010
    Messages:
    46,383
    Likes Received:
    15,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    :wall:
     
  15. SamSkwamch

    SamSkwamch Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2016
    Messages:
    2,246
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Excellently put.
     
  16. SamSkwamch

    SamSkwamch Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2016
    Messages:
    2,246
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    38
    And it's not just the Palestinians who feel this way, but pretty much everyone who has ever looked at this man's record and the suffering he caused so many innocent people, most of all the children of that region.

    I have been confused by some of things I see supported on this board, but this guy, Jazz?
     
  17. Thehumankind

    Thehumankind Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2013
    Messages:
    4,478
    Likes Received:
    342
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Peace was his quest,
    and with this parting may peace be with him when he now rests.
     
  18. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,114
    Likes Received:
    1,192
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Jazz what? I don't quite get what you are asking.:confusion:
     
  19. SamSkwamch

    SamSkwamch Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2016
    Messages:
    2,246
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Sorry, that was confusing. I was only saying that it isn't just the Palestinians that know this guy is a psychopath and war criminal.
     
  20. Johnny Brady

    Johnny Brady New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2016
    Messages:
    3,377
    Likes Received:
    45
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Wonder if this 2003 quote by Israeli military historian Martin van Creveld is still Israeli doctrine today?

    "We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force.
    Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.'
    I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible.
    Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us.
    And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under"
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

    PS- if he's talking about hitting muslim countries that's understandable, but I can't understand why he talks about "taking the world down", what's Israel's beef with the rest of us?
     
  21. juanvaldez

    juanvaldez Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2016
    Messages:
    2,390
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Nuclear weapons were probably the smartest thing the Israelis ever did to ensure their long term survival.
     
  22. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,114
    Likes Received:
    1,192
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Got it!:salute:
     
  23. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,114
    Likes Received:
    1,192
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    No question! It is a surefire deterrent. But... it also emboldens them to ruthlessly subjugate the Palestinians and threaten, even attack, their neighbors. Nobody dares to challenge them, not even the UN... one resolution after another gets tossed into the wastebasket.
    It is very worrisome where this loose canon might end!
     
  24. SamSkwamch

    SamSkwamch Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2016
    Messages:
    2,246
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    38
    In a brief phone call she placed Thursday to 1,000 or so Jewish machers, she wished everyone a “shana tova” and spoke personally about her friend, the late President Shimon Peres.
    “When he spoke, to me it was like listening to a psalm, and I loved sitting and listening to him whether it was about Israel, the nation he loved and did so much to defend, or about peace or just about life itself,” recalled Clinton, adding that her husband Bill Clinton is in Israel to attend the funeral and represent them both....

    https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/...second-jewish-president-of-the-united-states/

    This women is bat(*)(*)(*)(*) crazy.
     
  25. free man

    free man Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2011
    Messages:
    3,984
    Likes Received:
    551
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The hipocracy of people here is amazing.
    The worse of what they attribute for Peres in 93 years of his like is an everyday reality in Syria today.
    Yet they cmore here to bash the dead man and support the guys who do that every day.
    If you hate him so much, it must be he's done tons of good in his life.
     

Share This Page