Hillary Clinton Beats Trump in Popular Vote /MOD WARNING

200,000 isn't much to harp over. A drop in the bucket.

Leftys do not have a good grasp of numbers.

I would like to see lobbying abolished, however.

 

135,495. Those votes are most likely the Soros Machine errors. Donald Trump most likely got the popular vote too if you take out all the illegal votes from machines, fake absentee ballots and the huge inner city illegal voter fraud that was rampant...He probably won the popular vote by 750,000 - 1,000,000 if someone took the time to check ALL the voter fraud.

 

Not so in my opinion, I get what you're saying but like any party 3rd parties have to convince people they are worth their time. If a party has a message then people will listen.

 

Yes, Trump did win Florida with the illegal and dead people votes.

We know this. Thanks

 

I agree with your premise, but the deck is stacked against them at every turn. The two parties use the electoral system to block them from even having a seat at the debates. It's as Trump would put it, a rigged system.

 

I understand what you're saying. Back in the day there where a lot of parties and majorities were won with 35% not a good way to get things done. As for the debates they needed to get their message out to what is required to join the debate. Remember the debates were the Republican presidential debates, not the Republican/ Libertarian debates. I'm more libertarian than Republican just right leaning. In my state until yesterday( a referendum) a person was required to join the party to vote in primaries.

 

Thank goodness the dead people vote or else the turnout would be less than a million nationwide.

 

One of Trumps first big rallys was here 35000. And they were fighting for states with just 6 votes ala New Hampshire.

They work fine on the state. The electoral college works fine for the states to elect the President.

My vote can effect the out come in my state as much as any one elses.

It ain't gonna change.

 

Wouldn't change if there was a national vote and what if no one gets a majority of the votes?

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And how exactly did they do that?

 

If you are not a member of that party why should they be forced to let you have a say in whom they nominate?

 

Illegals are allowed to vote for US President? Cooooooool! I will make in 4 years a holiday in the USA and go voting too

However,
Neither popular voting, nor this electoral voting is with a democracy of only to political parties fair enough to be rated as smart.
Why the hack, when having only 2 parties and more as in other democracies, are you in the USA not making this way:

All 4 years will be a Congress election on popular voting and because you have only 2 parties, there are for any election area at least only 2 candidates. After this, the Congress is electing the President - point!

Alternatively:
Make a 2 vote issue... 1 popular vote for the President Candidate and 1 for the Congress person all 4 years. Sure, could then happen that Candidate of Party A wins presidency, but party B got majority in Congress. But where is the problem, because how often has a President no majority in Congress and Senate, eh?

 

Illegals can vote if poll workers let them vote. Obama said it was OK when this woman asked him if she could get in trouble for it.

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Edit: Corrected video tag

 

Words mean things and it's important to use the right words. We are a Republic with Democratically Elected Representatives. Hence "And to the Republic, for which it stands"

 

This. A constitutional republic, with democratic traditions.
Frankly I think all states should split their votes like Maine. Sick of having to deal with Californias 55 votes as democrat off top.

 

Sure ... congress! And why does not the congress vote the president?

 

Drama drama drama. Their votes were important and counted towards a number of electoral votes. They were not voided at all. Look, it was a landslide victory, like it or not. Our electoral system has been in place for long enough to fix it if it didnt work, and it still works. It is obvious that you are upset over the results, but the rules have been in place for a very long time.

The democrats didnt lose because of a busted system, they lost because they have ignored a significant portion of the population. They have called them racists and bigots simply because of the color of their skin or because of the political party they aligned with. They have laughed at them for living in flyover states. They have mocked them for being uneducated. They had the media on their side to take the mocking to a new level. They have fabricated racial tension and whipped the population into a frenzy with it. Instead of blaming the electoral college, you should do some introspection. The people you have dismissed and told that they are inconsequential just threw a hand grenade into your system, and now you are crying about it. Will you learn anything from this? I doubt it.

 

What is necessary, and has been proven successful, is to change the parties from within. Leftists were successful in infiltrating the Democrats and removing it ideologically it from the party of Truman and Kennedy. Now Donald Trump is turning the Republican Party in a direction toward the working person, small business and honest government - and all by 'draining the swamp'.

It took a generation for the left to turn the Democrats around to what we see today but Trump, to his great credit and largely working alone, has redefined the GOP, at least so far. If he can continue this work by appointing good honest people to the heads of the different departments, Tres Gowdy to DOJ, Rudy Giuliani to Homeland Security, Ben Carson to Health, Newt Gingrich somewhere for sure, it will make for a quiet revolution in DC. These mentioned bureaucracies need serious fixing, along with the IRS, FBI, Dept. of Agriculture, Education, and probably several others. The media needs some self reform as well.

 

Trump had better coverage than Verizon.

 

If you didnt vote for Hillary, and you didnt vote for Trump, you are admitting that you voided your own voice and wasted a vote. So what exactly is it that you're upset about again? Voided and wasted votes?

 

You are correct. Now you just need to work on understanding the why of it. It might be difficult because the system currently in place was implemented by people much smarter than you or me, but dig in there. I have faith in ya.

 

Oh...President Elect Trump.Well my answer remains the same.
The electoral college was intentionally designed to keep the smaller states from being victimized by the several large highly populated states.
We don't live in a pure democracy, you know.

Hope you get over that whole election thing.

 

Wait, so now you're so desperate that you want to count the votes of those that did not vote?

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The rules re fine as long as they win. It is when they lose that the rules are brought into question.

 

Lets be real, the majority of Americans didnt vote for either candidate, and the majority of Americans did not even vote. The margin was less than 200,000 votes, with 150 million plus people not even bothering to vote. To say either candidate had the Majority on their side is laughable

 

This is a republic.
A republic (from Latin: res publica) is a sovereign state or country which is organized with a form of government in which power resides in elected individuals representing the citizen body and government leaders exercise power according to the rule of law.
We have electors - hence the electoral college. It's the way it's always been. Besides, all of you were crowing how Trump could never win 270 electoral votes. I know, I know, it's deplorable.

 

I may have explained this earlier in the thread but the extra half million or so illegal votes for Hillary in the blue states didn't help her a bit because all she got was the state's allotted electoral votes for all their trouble. That's how you win the presidency without winning the popular vote.