Panic As The American Elite, Establishment Is Asking How Could This Have Happened !

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Why? No new ground battles/wars.
    The economy has risen from the depths it fell. Stock market doubled.
    Yes, it's been terrible.

    But is worse than 2 perpetual wars we're in.
    Crashed the world's economies. That is 2nd worst. LOL.
     
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    We don't live in a 3rd world former soviet republic. That's not how things work here.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    o Economy that was tanking at a -9% rate and shedding 700,000+ jobs a month turned around
    o a record 77 straight months of private sector employment growth.
    o 130% increase in the stock markets since taking office
    o More than halved the deficit in 4 years.
    o Initial unemployment claims drop to lowest level since 1973
    o Got Osama bin Laden.
    o Saved 2-3 million jobs with stimulus package
    o First decrease in spending in a year in decades - 3 times.
    o Stock markets up 180% since bottom of the recession in 2009
    o Over 14 million additional private sector jobs created since Jan 2010
    o Oil production increasing for the first time in decades.
    o Ousted Muamar Kadaffi at 1/1000 the cost of the Iraq war
    o Deficit reduced by a then record $212 billion, down 16%, in 2012.
    o Expanded overtime regulations for working Americans
    o Deficit reduced by a new record $408 billion, down 37%, in 2013
    o Record corporate profits
    o Opened relations with Cuba
    o Passed health care reform that is providing coverage to tens of millions of Americans
    o 6 straight years of GDP growth
    o Unemployment rate dropped from 10% to 4.9%
    o U.S. becomes world's top petroleum and energy producer
    o Passed financial regulation reform to prevent another housing bubble fiasco.
    o Diplomatically coerced Syria to give up WMD without war or loss of single American life.
    o Recovered all jobs lost in the worst recession in 80 years
    o Lowest rate of spending increases of any president in modern history
    o On-budget deficit has decreased every full fiscal year he's been in office.
    o Average initial jobless claims drops to levels last seen when Nixon was president.
    o US domestic oil use decreasing
    o Net creation of millions of people employed despite inheriting a economy losing 700,000+ jobs a month
    o Student loan reform passed making college loans available at reasonable rates.
    o Gas prices drop to $2.00/gallon
    o Initial unemployment claims below 300,000 for a 77 straight weeks, the longest streak since 1970

    If Obama were a white Republicans, conservatives would be hailing him as a savior.
     
  4. Battle3

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    The USA is still on "Bush's wars", plus Syria, Yemen, North Africa, Philippines, probably others that I don't know about. Nations destabilized. Stagnant economy. Race riots. Worse immigration problems.

    obama is worse.

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    LOL, blah blah, standard propaganda. obama is the 3rd and 4th terms of Bush. If Bush had a D after his name you would praise him.
     
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    Becoming as small as they will not increase his stature and will only make their voices appear louder.

    The best way to punish elitest jackasses is to demonstrate that they are not needed. Prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that we don't need them that their solutions aren't and that the world will not go to hell in a hand basket if they aren't in charge.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Standard propaganda"? Are making stuff up again?

    Prove it is "standard". Show where my list comes from any other source.

    And then prove it is "propaganda" by demonstrating that even one item on that list is not accurate.

    It's not often you have someone making two separate falsehoods in two words.
     
  7. dairyair

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    Hence my use of the word perpetual. And the can of worms opened by becoming a nation of aggression. Opened and started by bush. But that and crashing the world, is only 2nd worst. LOL.

    Only the most foolish would think Bush was better.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The establishment elitists m/billionaires are celebrating one of their own getting into the WH who will give them huge tax cuts that will redistribute hundreds of billions of dollars to them annually.

    You've been duped and conned by a charlatan. The elite establishment m/billionaires are thanking you. Congratulations on your win.
     
  9. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was a masterful manipulation of gullible Americans by the old KGB agent, wasn't it?

    [​IMG]

    It's a day for you and Putin to celebrate a job well done.
     
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    The election is over you lost get used to it. And as usual you've misidentified who the power elite are.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, so the establishment elite m/billionaires celebrating one of their own getting into the WH who will give them huge tax cuts that will redistribute hundreds of billions of dollars to them annually are not the "power elite".

    Glad we got that straightened out.
     
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    I understand it, you live in the 4th world real American republic, on it and has asked how it works? Trump will continue to help the Ukrainian fascists and ISIS? By the way, the old hag Hillary is still alive?
     
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    obama did not get bin laden, and its despicable of you to claim he did. The bin laden raid was the culmination of a lot of people working very hard for many years, some risked their lives and some lost their lives. It had nothing to do with Bush or obama. obama just happened to be sitting in the chair when the time came.

    But that's typical of the obama type (and his sycophants), you claim others success and blame others for your failure.
     
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    Think about what you are arguing over - whether Bush or obama was the worst President in the history of the nation. Your measure of success is that you are 43rd out of 44? Really?
     
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    sorry I am not a supporter of conspirosy theories
     
  16. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You never heard? Where you bin, under a rock?

    Bin Laden Is Dead, Obama Says
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/02/world/asia/osama-bin-laden-is-killed.html

    That was like 5 years ago. The RW propaganda never told you?

    Where did I claim others' success or blame others for my failure?

    What on earth are you babbling about now?
     
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    In history of Russia we wrote down - Obama as the agent of the Kremlin who presented to Russia the Crimea. In world history Obama is written down - the helper to fascists and terrorists and unworthy a world peace award...
     
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    Quite right. They do pay protection money to them however.
     
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    Trump just won against his crowd. Where have you been?
     
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    It's traditional.
     
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    Battle3 Well-Known Member

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    Learn to read.

    I wrote that obama did not get bin laden, he just happened to be there when the decades long process of finding and killing bin laden was completed.
     
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    It was as much cultural as economic. The Marxist-controlled Progressives were into their usual divide-and-conquer tactics and everyone was fed up, especially those painted as racists--which was anyone that tried to have a rational discussion about real social issues. The Progs like to preserve victim classes as a voting constituency, rather than help them to move up.

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    IMO they will be punished by being denied access to him and to positions of power that he controls.
     
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    and how many members of your elite class live in the housing projects?..1/3 of your elite members are poor living in the ghettos your party created and abandoned..
     
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    Jeepers criminey. Bush stopped looking for him.
    You are 0 for everything.

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    Um, it was you who made the claim, not I. I only laughed at your ridiculous claim and called you out.
    Things improved nicely under obama, his approval rating was higher than Reagans.
    But you must be blind.

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    Not sure of your point.
     

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