Trump mocks Russian hacking 'conspiracy theory'

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Republican Senator John McCain, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said in a joint statement on Sunday with top Democrats that the CIA's report "should alarm every American[/QUOTE]

    Has anyone actually seen "the CIA's report"?

    Is there a "CIA report"?
     
  2. Moi621

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    Has anyone actually seen "the CIA's report"?

    Is there a "CIA report"?[/QUOTE]
    Weren't they the same folks who claimed
    with all appropriate analysis,
    Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction?


    Duh - Uh,
    I support Trump and an overhaul of the CIA.
    They missed the "dots" regarding the Twin Towers, etc.

    The quotifiers got screwed up.
    It ain't my fault! ​
     
  3. The Mello Guy

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    Who said the point of the investigation ends on dec 20th?
     
  4. doombug

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    It is only foot stomping by sore losers:

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  5. RPA1

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    I said "And by the time the 'investigation' is over, Dec 20th will have come and gone" I did not say the investigation ends Dec 20th. I do think that by that time, the investigation will lose its fake 'legs' though.
     
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    Where do you want me to start? The sales material itself admits that it isn't really selling a product or guidance, just "a feeling." Students were told that Trump would be selecting the "professors." He didn't. They were lead to believe he would have something to do with designing the curriculum. He didn't. They were lead to believe that they would have some mentorship. They got none. They were continuously told to pay more and more money without being given more value in return. There's a good reason Trump folded and settled even after saying he wouldn't.
     
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    I've defended Clinton and Obama against basic misrepresentations of their actions and statements, as I have for Trump when people called him a racist, claimed that he never denounced white supremacists/David Duke or claimed that he should apologize for the actions of a few of his followers, yes.

    At some things, yes, at others, no. More than once I've mentioned that there should be impeachment trials for some of his more grievous overreaches. Almost anything I can criticize Bush for, Obama took to the next level.

    If I thought that then I would have voted for her.
     
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    I had no difficulty finding people at the time who disagreed. Please stop pretending to speak for "everyone."
     
  9. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks very much for clearing the deck. I will try to recall your views. Bear in mind though how many posters are posting. My memory is good but not perfect when it comes to names.
     
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    it is a conspiracy theory because framing is different on the internet.

    when a person frames another person for a crime in real life, you can follow the evidence to prove innocence.

    on the internet they show different addresses than where they really are.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_spoofing
     
  11. Robert

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    As maybe the lone real estate professional on this forum, I see the school as a fraud magnet.

    i don't know if I want to blame Trump given his days were used globally on his particular issues, so how could he closely manage such a school, but I have worked for outstanding RE firms and owned two myself. I know what it means for the company to rot first at the head.

    I always was very watchful of my agents and ensured they heard from me what it means to be honest and put the client first.

    When I also had the appraisal company, at times I had to annoy my loan team by telling them that the appraised value they said they needed was not going to happen. That cost me the fee of the appraisal and perhaps the fee of the loan. But value had to be there.

    Trump by putting his own name on it clearly had a duty to the customers to give them an honest and valuable course since the opening figures I saw were around ten thousand dollars. That may not sound like a lot of money but for listening to some guy talk, it is.

    Happy students did make claims. They alleged they did get value. I don't know the true number of Trump U students so it is possible that 6,000 malcontents is a small figure.

    i need more data. 6000 is a lot to have as malcontents. I saw part of the problem with one of the guys that sold to students. That guy creeps me out.
     
  12. Ddyad

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    Weren't they the same folks who claimed
    with all appropriate analysis,
    Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction?


    Duh - Uh,
    I support Trump and an overhaul of the CIA.
    They missed the "dots" regarding the Twin Towers, etc.

    The quotifiers got screwed up.
    It ain't my fault! ​
    [/QUOTE]

    Yes, they are the "weapons of mass destruction folks". And the folks who missed the Tet Offensive, and dismissed IS/ISIS/ISIL ... as the "JV Team". No wonder Obama skips his "intelligence" briefings.
     
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    Actually, I worked in real estate for a few years myself (though, admittedly, not commercial). The only "happy student" claims I've been able to find are from surveys issued immediately after the courses, which are extremely suspect. And I think it bears repeating that Trump himself claimed, during the promotional material, that he would be hand-picking the instructors. That is why I hold him to some level of responsibility.

    I also want to repeat something you said and draw particular attention to it: "I always was very watchful of my agents and ensured they heard from me what it means to be honest and put the client first."

    This is how business should be done. This is not how Trump U did business. I've made a lot of money putting my customers first. I've made a lot of money for my clients by teaching them to put their customers first. There is no excuse for this sort of behavior.
     
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    Fantastic. outside of the french, who were tied up in arms sales to Saddam, please produce any intel outfit which disagreed with the notion that Iraq had active wmd programs.
     
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    Class action suits draw unaffected "malcontents" by nature of the beast. Indeed one of the primaries of the suit also made glowing testimonials when finished. He has claimed he was "happy at the time".
     
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    You literally just got through admitting that the CIA was in disagreement. Have you changed your mind?
     
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    I agree that Vladimir Putin has the same variety of contempt and disdain for Hilarity Clinton that he has had for our wonderous President "Red Line" Obama for eight years... and possibly even more, because on top of getting caught over and over committing one criminal act after another, she is even more laughably STOOPID than Obama! But never doubt for a minute that he would have preferred to have had her as the next president!

    Why? Because arrogant, reckless, ignorant people like Hilarity are easy to outwit, out-think, and easy to anticipate... plus, if they are also laughably STOOPID then it makes it just that much easier to win every "chess game" you engage in with them. And always remember that in the field of international "chess", Vladimir Putin is a master!

    Putin will probably be able to come to a series of amicable working relationships with Trump, and it is likely that Putin will adjust to the modality of "business" processes in order to facilitate a "win-win" between our two countries. We could actually enter into a partnership or alliance with Russia, going forward, and together we could annihilate violent, radical Islam and remove it from human experience! Trump is shrewd, pragmatic, and very results-oriented, so the outlook for a greatly improved relationship with Russia is more possible now than it has been this century so far....
     
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    I sure hope not. We need a full accounting of what happened.
     
  19. peoshi

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    Here it is:

    You lost and now your throwing sh*t against the wall hoping something will stick.
     
  20. The Mello Guy

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    Yes the emails weren't released it was just our imagination lol
     
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    Speaking of which...why don't you show the same concern about what was in those emails?

    If someone that corrupt is running for president I don't care who exposed it, and you have no evidence of russian involvement, your trusting an agency whose whole purpose is to lie and deceive and has lied to congress on more than one occassion.

    Lying is their job.
     
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    Mocking conspiracy theories are in order here. There is zero proof to support these outrageous claims.
     
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    Democrats losing election and claiming it was the Russians = Waaah Waahhhh Wahhhhhh! I didn't get my own way Waaaaah waaaahh waaaaah!

    Here's the problem with that. According to the MSM Clinton won the popular vote so clearly if Russia rigged the election on behalf of Trump they failed. From what I understand the electoral college hasn't actually voted yet so that vote hasn't been tampered with because hit hasn't happened, so how is this rigged by Russia? You're being manipulated by the Democrats and the MSM folks.



    December 19, 2016

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    https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/key-dates.html
     
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    I voted for Trump
     
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    Why do you keep saying that? Everyone here knows better.

    You voted for him but you have been constantly bashing him since the election and he has not even taken office yet?

    Yeah...right! :roll:
     

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