Trump mocks Russian hacking 'conspiracy theory'

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  1. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I will use small words, so you will understand.
    The ENTIRE WORLD's intelligence services thought that Saddam had MULTIPLE WMD programs running, including nuclear.

    One piece of intel, that yellow cake was procured from Nigeria, was wrong.

    That yellow cake was not the only piece of evidence that the nuclear ambition claim was based on, but having fissile material on hand made it particularly nasty.

    It was believed, by everyone, that Saddam was constructing sites to process nuclear material, as well as chemical and biological facilities. Everyone believed this to be the case.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You people are.

    Once again, in order for it to be proven that it is made up, or a false flag, or correct, an investigation needs to occur. Who is opposing this investigation, exactly?
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    People claiming it's some leftwing conspiracy. If you agree we should have a bipartisan investigation into what happened then we're in agreement.
     
  4. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Had I said something like that, I would expect it to be accepted.

    So does this mean you defend Trump the way you defended Clinton and Obama?

    Was Obama a good president the way you see him?

    Was she your idea of what a president should be like?
     
  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An investigation as the Trump team says is great. But the idea set forth by Democrats, that it is already investigated is what we do not like.

    This entire thing has rubber legs.
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    We influence other countries' elections all the time. Servers all over the world get hacked every moment of every day. Big deal
    The DNC, and Hillary hired retards to secure their stuff.
    They influenced their own election by being stupid (*)(*)(*)(*)wads
     
  7. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If I am not erring, Saddam had about 500 tons of yellow cake. The USA shipped it to Canada
     
  8. shades

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    so here's a chance to show how shallow and petty you are. I love when your kind step in with both feet.
    So, tell us what was corrupt about trump U? and be specific
     
  9. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do Russians so frighten Democrats???
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't sound like there is any debate among intel agencies that the Russians were behind it. Which is why trump is trying to discredit them talking about Iraq wmds
     
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    I followed some MSM articles Reuters mentioned a cia investigation but linked washing post who talked about an cia investigation. Washington post referenced NYT who linked an article about DNC hiring two third party companies to do an investigation for them.

    I just wanted one of these MSM articles to reference an official statement from the CIA. But instead of actually referring the readers to actual evidence to support their assertions they reference each other. It's a game of phone.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    We should be afraid of any foreign power trying to influence our elections. But as Mitch McConell said, Russia is not our friend.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have long been a real estate professional. I looked over the course offering of Trump U and think those taking that course were nuts. They should have sought expert advice first.

    But, actual students did believe the course was legitimate.

    [video=youtube;2GHBBUrWpf4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GHBBUrWpf4[/video]
     
  14. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now, this pathetic bag made claims that for what it is worth, display fraud all over them, it does not mean Trump did it. This guy claims he made a lot of cash off Trump but then he also makes other claims he refuses to back up. But to blame Trump for this bag of worms?

    [video=youtube;84lUQFvHeDk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84lUQFvHeDk[/video]
     
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    So tell us, what is the evidence, since there is no debate?
     
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    That's my point, but I wanted yardmeat to step in it.

    Fact is what exactly did someone that would enroll in Trump U expect to get out of it. Free ride to wealth? Some of Trumps contacts to do business with? I just don't get it.
    Seems like anyone who would sign up for Trump U is the victim of their own misguided motive. Kind of like those guide to real estate seminars you pay 500 bucks to attend. They show you how but you still have to do the work.
     
  17. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you honestly fall for the claims Russia did it? First, i would start with the premise as follows...

    Does Hillary Clinton have clean hands? If she had clean hands, none of this could possibly matter. For instance, if she came out looking as good as a girl scout, I am certain Democrats would love it.

    Who told Wikileaks? Some are ready to believe the man inside her campaign that got killed leaked to Wikileaks. I have no opinion but it is a good question. (Seth Richards)
     
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    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Strange? :confusion:

    Surely you don't think we were involved in Syria over religion.

    There is more than one pipeline with Russian interests. Russia very much does not want Qatari natural gas going to Europe. http://russia-insider.com/en/russia...g20160917russia-trumps-usa-energy-war-mideast

    Do you really believe we didn't sacrifice American soliders' lives for cheap gasoline? We were told there were other reasons, just as we are being told the war in Syria is about religious extremism.

    We are not yet energy independent, and we have come close to being energy independent only recently- like this year.
    http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/09/investing/us-energy-independence-oil-opec/

    Yes, I do believe that the Russians tried to influence our election as payback, among other things. That's why I linked the information from which you quoted a passage.

    Hillary Clinton was not for removing sanctions against Russia over Ukraine, sanctions that have significantly hurt the Russian economy. All Russia has to do is reverse their actions in Ukraine and the sanctions will be removed. If the sanctions are removed for any other reason, Putin wins. Of course he wants that to happen. Of course hurting Clinton in the election would help his goals. Putin was in the KGB, and is well aware of how to accomplish dirty tricks. Don't put anything past him. Again, as Mitch McConnell and John McCain have said, Russia is not our friend… Putin's not just Hillary's enemy. He's America's enemy. Putin is THE wealthiest men in the world, as long as he is in charge of Russia. If he is no longer in charge of Russia, his wealth is significantly diminished. Economic sanctions against Russia directly impact Putin. Hacking the US election and what is going on in Syria is absolutely about money and power… Putin's. I urge you not to discount that fact.

    Gazprom is the Russian oil/ gas corporation.

    However, with that all being said, you're free to believe as you like.
     
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    If it is a conspiracy, only an investigation will expose it as such, which in and of itself is government fraud which needs to be exposed. I don't see how ANYONE could oppose an independent investigation, unless they are guilty of something.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have long sold real estate. I only met one buyer that was so trusting, I was tasked with selecting the home in a particular area and sight unseen the buyer would take it. People who have the cash tend to be far more careful.

    In my case, the buyer was a woman who just married a rich man. She told me the school she wanted for her kid and it had to have 3 br and 2 bath. I was sent a large deposit at the time. I think it was for 1/3 the price of the home. When they arrived, they approved the home. The woman also happened to have worked for me as one of my agents. She had departed the area and somehow met this guy with money. That marriage lasted days.
     
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    I apologize for having to post shorter messages. I have had serious problems each time I try to do as you did, use multiple quotes as one ambles along.

    I do not wish to create the impression that Putin is my buddy. Nor is he the buddy of the USA.

    But look at us. We the USA sure are not his buddy.

    We waste a ton of time running the man down. Will it make the USA better?

    Does the guy calling you a scum have higher standing than the scum has?

    Ukraine really should not be part of the discussion nor should Crimea. That offends me as a loyal American. It offends me as it should you were this Putin whinning over Canada or Mexico. Why would how we work with those two nations be any of his business?

    Crimea voted. I respect that vote. Ukraine was overthrown and the criminals doing it are still in charge.

    If either Canada or Mexico were to overthrow a person they had elected, we would be right, as I think you also agree, to be upset it took place.

    I do not blame Putin over being upset over Ukraine.

    We seem to like those dictators best we put into power. Many of us have a hunch we put out the Ukraine government even if only so using political means, the then lawful government. We have had a number of posters who agree with me on this.

    Does Putin dislike Hillary? Maybe he does. Millions of Americans can't stand the woman.
     
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    Let's not pin this to only one poster, this is the general question. Starting with Clinton and including Obama and now the Media, there have been accusations made against Russia. Not for the content, Since the media appears to bless her with clean hands, which if she has them, should shut up and stop whining.

    But that they claim it was Russia that somehow fudged our election.

    So, how and when? Did they handle voters at the polls? Did they do the mind meld on them? What did they use to control those who otherwise were loyal to Clinton? Surely they never expected republicans to be loyal to her.
     
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    Be serious, have you seen agency get behind this story? Can you name a single official backing up this claim working at any of the agencies?

    We are told it's true by the media.
     
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    Blaming the outcome of the election on Russian hacking, as many on the Left have done, is worthy of mockery.

    And now I shall taunt "progressive" sore losers a second time:

    [video=youtube;A8yjNbcKkNY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8yjNbcKkNY[/video]
     
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    Ya...And by the time the 'investigation' is over, Dec 20th will have come and gone and Trump will be President. :roflol: Only a dumb snowflake would fall for that one...:roflol:
     

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