A new poll shows 52% of Republicans actually think Trump won the popular vote

If the ruling really says that just paste up the holding. Do you know how to do that? Or did you see that case cited in a fav source and assume that it supported you? You should read the case you have cited and relied on here - then paste up the holing.

 

Er, I think you are one of those people.

 

No, just read the ruling. It's all there.

Of course. But your a big boy. You can read it yourself.

Nope

I've read it. You really should give it a try.

 

Er, do a little research. You will find that while Obama beat Romney by less than 4 points it was described as a "landslide" victory giving Obama a mandate.

 

Paste up a quote from the decision and I will read it and tell you what I think. Absent that, and reading the 14th Amendment, and the legislative context it does not apply.

 

Yes, but Republicans are only ones who openly claim that facts do not matter as much as how one feels about it. Ted Cruz used this argument when confronted with the fact that no federal tax dollars are used to cover abortion costs. His reply was that the "fact and statistics" may say that, but he knows "in his heart" that it's not true.

 

Which ignores the fact that many if not most Republican politicians are "liberals".
Do you have the full quote from Cruz and a citation?

 

Well, yeah. He won by a significantly larger margin than Trump did. Even if he didn't, someone else incorrectly using a term does not change its meaning.

 

no. read the ruling.

The court, says it does. That's why the ballot measure doesn't exist any more.

 

not sure what you mean by four points. there was no four points about it. do your own research

 

unless your's talking popular vote, which trump lost. but it was a landslide loss right?

 

And yet they say that the polls say that everybody likes Obama. I wonder if those are the same polls that said that Clinton would win in a landslide.

 

ROFL you're the only jumping up and down about a mythical popular vote not me. I only cite actual votes.

Back to your math and civics studies now.

 

Trump received less votes from Americans than Clinton. Stomp your feet all you like, it doesn't change reality.

 

Trump is POTUS. Stomp your feet all you like, it doesn't change reality.

 

Never said he wasn't. I see another righty with reading comprehension problems.

 

IOW, you admit that Obama did not win a landslide victory over Romney. Yes, when political factions use terms to advance their partisan rhetoric it does "change its meaning".

 

In fact the will of the people expressed through their votes in a democratic election was nullified by the corrupt anti-democratic ruling political class. What passes as the progressive movement now only accepts the will of the voters when they vote the way they are told.

 

Can't vote peoples rights away via ballot initiative. It's unconstitutional. And are you calling conservative republican appointed judges corrupt political ruling class? Because thats who overturned the ballot initiative.

You'll have to ask them. I've never stated anything remotely close to what you are suggesting.

 

They have apparently had great success rigging elections.

“Bernie Sanders said the Democratic primary process is a "rigged system" at a campaign event in Evansville, Indiana on Monday. Sanders announced last night at the National Press Club that the Democratic convention will be a contested one.

"When we talk about a rigged system, it's also important to understand how the Democratic Convention works," Sanders said Morning morning. "We have won, at this point, 45 percent of pledged delegates, but we have only earned 7 percent of superdelegates."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi..._a_contested_convention_system_is_rigged.html

I am sure they were surprised that it did not work well enough to defeat Trump.

 

You just don't get it - the corrupt political class is very bipartisan. The election was nullified to advance a pop PC political movement in defiance of the democratic process and the will of the people and the constitution.

“Getting Rich has become the great bipartisan ideal: “No Democrats and Republicans in Washington anymore, only millionaires”, goes the maxim. The ultimate Green party. You still hear the term “public service” thrown around, but often with irony and full knowledge that “self-service” is now the real insider play.” Mark Leibovich, This Town, Penguin Books, 2013, p. 9.

The corrupt political establishment has contempt for the constitution and elections. CA voters no longer matter.

 

Nope. You can't vote away peoples rights. The ballot initiative violated the US constitution, and was correctly overturned.

CA voters never had the right to vote on the issue. That's why the initiative no longer exists.

 

What "right" did they vote away?

CA voters have been neutered by a corrupt political establishment that now can operate above law and the will of American voters.
Hence Trump.

 

Marriage

Nope. CA voters never had the right to vote on the issue. That's why they lost in court.

 

Nonsense. All Americans have always had the right to get married.

In defiance of the democratic process and the law CA voters were disenfranchised by the corrupt political class. The courts are part of the corrupt political class. Which is why almost all American now list Big Government as their greatest fear. It is also why Trump was able to so easily beat Clinton, the corrupt candidate of the united ruling political class.