Former German MP- Washington Seems On Brink Of Civil War

The former CDU defense spokesman Willy Wimmer told RT that the US establishment is trying to make it impossible for Donald Trump to ditch the warmongering policies of the previous administration and not deliver on his pledge to mend relations with Russia. He said there are scores of scathing articles in all the leading newspapers this morning all over the world.

I assume these newspapers are all owned by the same six corporations and might even be subsidized by the CIA. I guess to Soros and the rest of the globalist swamp, it's either war with Russia or civil war.

“There is no hostility [between Russia and Europe], the hostility is organized in a very artificial way and it is the same way of organizing hostilities as we see nowadays against Trump,” the former MP said.

“There is a network of resistance against the President who will be in office on the 20th of January and I think when you look at the reality in Europe, people of all our European countries – they want to live in good [relations] with [the] Russian Federation,”

“When you see the situation in Washington, I think they are not willing, those who lost the election, to accept the new president whose name is Trump… What’s going on in Washington sounds like the beginning of a civil war,”​

https://www.rt.com/news/373397-trump-hostility-civil-war-russia/

 

Herr Wimmer speaks more truth in one paragraph than the entire mainstream media and US government does in weeks.

The US and NATO are the aggressors here, even as the absurd propaganda sideshow takes place inside the Beltway about "Russian influence in the US elections".

It is a shameful time to be a US citizen.

 

According to Moon of Alabama the aim of the cabal is to kick Trump out of office and replace him with someone like VP Pence, and if that is not possible then to make it impossible for Trump to change foreign policy so that instead of it being a confrontation with Russia and China it will become a war on terror...which as we know is not as profitable to the military industrial complex.

The latest smear like the others, seems to originate from the Ukrainian 'nationalists/Nazis' and was passed by John McCain, who is known to be their friend and a Trump enemy, to the FBI making it official. As we all know, John McCain who is a member of the Foreign Relations Committee is insane, and there are even photos of him being palsy walsy with ISIS after they had massacred a Christian town.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/

 

Makes sense.

 

I've been leaving the left behind ever since all this started. Well, this Russia thing and SJW's combined has been the straw that broke the back. I can no longer play along with the left. I say this after being a leftist for 20 years.

 

Anyone who gives an interview with RT cannot be anyone who is worthy off listening to.

 

Typical prog response - if you cannot address the message, smear the messenger. Won't work any longer, you've worn that out.

 

I disagree. Once Trump is President and Commander in Chief, he will change the relationship between the US and Russia. Thanks to the last 8 years, the president has huge unilateral power.

Look at obama, he worked autonomously to appease Iran who is a true enemy and has killed 100's, maybe 1,000's of US troops. obama was able to cave in to Iran and destabilize the world. Trump will be able to defuse the fake conflict with Russia.

Neither the US nor Russia want to engage in an economic or military war. Russia works for itself, just like every nation. While the US and Russia have differences, they also have some common goals.

 

Welcome abroad. The new movement will be more pro-human rights and pro-growth than you can imagine. We will actually REALLY improve this country and not just talk about it.

 

Pardon me?

You know that Iran (and Syria, and Hizbollah) are Russian client-states, do you? But who are you, anyway; an American or an Israeli?

Either way, you are not making sense.

 

So, when is the Russian establishment going to ditch the warmongering policies that resulted in the invasions and dismemberment of Georgia and Ukraine and are largely responsible for the deterioration of relations between the U.S. and Russia in the first place?

When is the Russian establishment going to stop propagating the xenophobic anti-American war hysteria and propaganda that you and others regurgitate on a daily basis?

It's ridiculous how some people bleat about the imbecile in the White House appearing to be on the brink of war while Russia is actually AT war.

Vlad the Invader has already proven that even the best intentions of a craven appeaser like Barack Obama aren't enough to mend relations with Russia if the Kremlin isn't interested in mending relations. Why should anyone believe that Trump will be able to mend relations with a country run by a thug who needs America as an enemy?

 

Iran has trained and supplied Iraqi insurgents, and its almost certain that Iranian military were present as "advisors". At one point in 2011, Central Command (under Gen. Mattis at that time) had a plan to retaliate against Iran, obama rejected it.

Google the subject.

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The US and Russia are not anywhere close to being perfectly aligned, the 2 nations have significant conflicts of interest. There are also areas of common interest, and neither wants to go back to the Cold War model of economic war and each side using client states as proxies in military conflicts all over the world.

Just like the US works with the China to put pressure on North Korea, the US can work with Russia to put pressure on Iran.

 

He's a Ukrainian 'nationalist' from Western Ukraine so what's one to expect. Everything he writes has to be taken in that context.

 

I'm getting a little worry that these Trotsky ideologues might push us into a civil war since they own all the MSM. Of course Soros would love that, I mean he's had coups and caused civil wars in so many countries and he did say that the US was his biggest problem. It all depends now on the American people, and so far they have shown themselves not to be stupid.

If Obama does anything foolish like stopping the inauguration on the false pretext of Trump having been compromised... which he might, I hope he realizes the military will not support him. Also that there are militias all over the country that have been training for exactly such a scenario.

 

The U.S. has always prided itself on the peaceful transition of power. I have been following politics since 1956 and I have never seen the animosity, hatred even directed against the winner of an election than this one has generated. It is like an entire establishment is doing its best to ensure a Trump presidency can't succeed.

I see no reason at all that the U.S. and Russia can't have friendly relations and become allies. It should have happened 25 years ago. The cold war is over, the old USSR broke apart, its time the U.S. realized they won. There is no need in trying to force a rematch or recreate the cold war. wasn't one enough for everyone?

 

Oh then it was not Victoria Nuland and Ambassador Pyatt who overthrew the legit president of Ukraine, it was Russia. That means then that the majority in Ukraine wanted an American aligned president, and it was Russia that began bombing and killing the children in Lviv and Kiev.

Oh those Russian monsters killing and maiming all those children in Lviv and Kiev. just because they wanted to federate. Thanks Talon for setting me straight. One can always depend on you.

 

Baloney. Iran is Shiite, Iraq is Sunni.

Let me set you straight; Wahabist Saudi Arabia are at the base of terrorist Islamism. Shia muslims, like Iran, Syria and Hizbollah, fights it under their ISIL form. Coincidently, Israel, for whom Hizbollah, Syria and Iran are implacable enemies, is rather on ISIL's sides, going along the "enemy of my enemy" logic.

So yes, if you are Israeli, Iran is your enemy. If you are American, they're not - they're rather allies given the ISIL thing. Israeli interests rarely go along with US ones - always has been.

As for Russia, I leave you to imagine AIPAC's reaction if Trump ever gets closer to those who finance their enemies.

Already done, with the Iran accords.

 

I never blamed Russia for overthrowing the legit president of Ukraine who abandoned his office like a coward and then turned traitor and begged Russia to invade his country. Is Yanukovych still walking around on four legs?

What I blame Russia for is violating the commitment it made in 1994 to respect Ukraine's political and territorial sovereignty.

Shall I go on?

One could also blame the fools in Budapest who forgot that the word of the men in the Kremlin has never been worth anything.

They should have known to conduct their affairs with Russia accordingly, and President-elect Donald Trump better know this, too. Vladimir Putin is not an honorable man.

 

You're right about Iran, but I'm not convinced the Kremlin isn't interested in returning to a Cold War that it is already waging.

Furthermore, I think we have to ask ourselves two questions relevant to your post:

1) What results have we gotten out of the pressure that China is allegedly putting on North Korea?

and

2) Is Russia even interested in putting pressure on Iran when its interests are far more closely aligned with Tehran than Washington?

I'm afraid the answers to both questions aren't what we'd like them to be.

 

Don't take my word for it. Google it, do your own checking, Iran's involvement in supporting Iraqi insurgents against US forces is well reported.

I have not mentioned Israel, stick to the facts.

 

In a nutshell, Russia and Trump and both Non Globalist. Obama, Hillary, and the MSM are globalist. They must not allow Russia and the U.S. to be at peace. China is a globalist country. That's why there was no outcry when China hacked our government files and has the information on millions of Americans. The election of Trump, Brexit, and the falling apart of the E.U. is badly hurting the globalist and must be stopped at all cost.

 

Not for those who support Trump.

 

I share his opinion about how the existing powers are trying to get Trump to continue their anti-Russian nonsense. They have a lot invested in vilifying Russia and now Trump's promising to turn that all on its head. Trump is really upsetting the apple cart.

 

As far as I know - and I'm a nobody - little to none. But after North Korea's little experiment in nuclear weapons they seem to have stepped out from under China's umbrella. China certainly does not want a nuclear capable madman on their border, I suspect their interests in controlling NK are more aligned with the US now.

Over the past 8 years, Russia certainly saw advantages in aligning with Iran over the USA. But that's obvious given the USA was willing to give Iran whatever Iran wanted, and was willing to bow to Russia's desires (such as canceling the missile defense system in Poland, selling uranium interests to Russian businesses, etc).

Combined with the fact that the USA leadership was incompetent (the childish "reset" / overcharge button fiasco set the tone) and the Russians could no doubt read Hilary's email, the Russians figured they could push the USA around without the compromises that being a partner would require.

With Trump, I think all of that will change.

 

As well reported as Iraq having WMDs? I find having doubts quite healthy in these kind of reports. Truth is, the zionists will do everthing that's in their power to despict Iran as Nazi Germany (like they do with every opposition they get).

No, you didn't - I did, as one of the main reasons why better relations with Russia will be very hard to build. Were you paying attention?