- Trump executive order does end run around liberal judges

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  1. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    These four words are a game changer;
    "Suspected of commiting crimes"

    Leftist judges ruled that being here illegally is not a deportable crime but these four words find a way around that. It is a crime to cross the border illegally and if you are undocumented you are suspected of commiting that crime.
    This has slipped under the liberal radar but it has huge potential and opens the door to mass deportation of illegals. Well played president Trump!

    "On Jan. 25, 2017, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order titled “Enhancing Public Safety in the Interior of the United States.” This order lays out the president’s plan for enforcing immigration laws, including, among other initiatives, increasing and expediting the deportation of removable aliens from the United States. Specifically, the order prioritizes for immediate deportation foreign nationals who have committed crimes, as well as those who are suspected of committing crimes and those whom law enforcement deems are a threat to national security. This executive order broadens the class of individuals considered to be a priority for removal. Therefore, there will likely be an increase in the scope and number of immigration raids."

    http://www.natlawreview.com/article/immigration-raids-and-what-they-mean-us-businesses
     
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    katzgar Banned

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    Your post exhibits a massive massive lack of understanding on how our system works here in the United States
     
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    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Feel free to expound on that. Tell me where I'm mistaken here. Who knows you may be right.
     
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    katzgar Banned

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    Oh I am right certainly that's why I made the post
     
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    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

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    The unfortunate reality is that Trumps deportation numbers thus far, have been dwarfed by those under Obamas admin. I was disappointed to learn that the reports of Netional Guardsmen being mobilized to expedite deportations were untrue. Any measure to facilitate the deportation of illegals is welcomed, and IMO, overdue.
     
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    gc17 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And? Quoting Sawyer, "Feel free to expound on that." I'm right you're wrong doesn't cut it.
     
  7. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But you can't seem to make your argument so I'll not take you seriously. The article itself says this;

    "This executive order broadens the class of individuals considered to be a priority for removal. Therefore, there will likely be an increase in the scope and number of immigration raids."
    This executive order broadens the class of individuals considered to be a priority for removal. Therefore, there will likely be an increase in the scope and number of immigration raids."

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    Trump's been president for five minutes and this executive order lays a framework for mass deportation. Give him time, he's going about this in a business like orderly fashion.
     
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    I see a fight between Church and State brewing in the near future as more Churches in the country declare themselves
    sanctuaries for the families of illegal immigrants. Church groups have been at the forefront for efforts to relocate
    families from Syria in this country and Mexican immigrants are BIG Catholic Church supporters.

    It will be interesting to see what happens when ICE starts breaking down church doors and the videos start being posted
    on the daily news and YouTube.

    Just say'n.
     
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    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The OP is about raids on businesses but nice attempt to deflect and obfuscate
     
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    What is with all the exec order crap? As you say being here illegally is a deportable offense. Obama deported record numbers. What has changed?

    Perhaps how we go about it? Breaking up families that are "suspected of committing crimes"? Just the allowance of ham handed an brutal tactics?
     
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    So judges are "leftist" for upholding the law when you don't like their judgements. Got it. That is worse than what #45 is doing.
     
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    And I was pointing out that if raids on business intensifies, that immigrants will move into the protection of sanctuary churches.
    When that happens, either Trump will back off or there is going to be some really ugly images coming out. Watching parents
    being separated from crying children (children who may be naturalized citizens) can turn a voter off real quick.
     
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    I only pray Trumps goals are as lofty as your prognostications. :flagus::salute:
     
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    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You misread the OP. Liberal judges have ruled that being here illegally is NOT a deportable offense and Trump has found a way around that ruling.
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/11-182
     
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    "Suspected of committing crimes ..." That's a loaded term that going to raise flags for Constitutional Scholars and Judges all
    over the country. The ACLU will have a field day with that one.
     
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    I agree the chaos of his Muslim ban executive order was very orderly
     
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    Meanwhile tens of thousands or maybe even millions of illegals are now subject to deportation simply by being here illegally. If a few churches want to ultimately harbor the last few remaining illegals they can have at it and those illegals won't be taking jobs from Americans or possibly even voting.

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    Yes it was, the leftist judge was the problem

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    Yes I expect a fight on this as part of the ongoing civil war in America.
     
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    Why should the authorities separate parents from children?
    I am sure Mexico will have no problem admitting the foreign born children of their citizens.
     
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    I am sure you did not read that entire decision that questioned state vs federal authority. All boiled down it does not change this fundamental facet of the law.

    Each year the Border Patrol apprehends hundreds of thousands of aliens who flagrantly violate our nation's laws by unlawfully crossing U.S. borders. Such illegal entry is a misdemeanor, and, if repeated after being deported, becomes punishable as a felony.
     
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    I want to remind you that if a Republican President can legally detain people for "suspected crimes" against the state - then
    a President who is a Democrat will be able to do the same ... you really want to start handing out THAT kind of power to
    the White House?

    Really?
     
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    I read it and without getting to deep in the weeds it basically said state law can't usurp fed law which says being here illegally is not a deportable crime in and of itself. Trump seems to have found a way around that ruling.
     
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    your post is not honest. the constitution was trumps problem. the demonstrations were a sign of how orderly things were. your comments are anti american and dishonest.
     
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    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's a fair point but something has to be done about illegals in this country and I'm willing to take the risk
     
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    You can't legally deport an American Citizen. If the child is born on American soil, then it is an American Citizen.
     
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    The leftist judge made no ruling based on law or the Constitution, he basically just said no,I don't like this.

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    I think he means deported illegals can take their legal kids with them
     

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