Comey confirms FBI probe into Trump-Russia collusion

Begin by losing the "we". This is what you think, not what we know. And quite a bit of it is wrong, and it is full of qualifiers that are now well beyond the "alleged" state (except to people in denial).

The hacking of the DNC servers began in the fall of 2015, not in July of 2016. It was reported on back then, and again, around the time of the South Carolina primary.

The first Wikileaks dump occurred not that long thereafter, and the second one was the Friday before the Democratic National Convention opened. The timing of that dump, and every one after that made it abundantly clear that these dumps were specificially intended to hurt the Clinton campaign to the advantage of Donald Trump.

You are correct that private security contractors quickly established that news stories of this sort were sourced in Russian intelligence. This has long since been confirmed by US and other intelligence agencies (a point you left out).

Your attempt to conflate civilian hackers with state actors is dishonest and self serving.

"That's the FIRST freaking red flag here, and it hasn't been raised by anyone D/R. We have no concrete proof that these operations were approved by the Russian Government."

Why would you assume that your own intelligence agencies would lie about who they thought were behind this activity? Are you putting the world of the Russians over that of your own government? Many Trumpsters have. The idea is disgusting.

"What we have are programs coded in Russian"

This is false. You're trying to pretend taht we are saying the Russians did it because programs were coded in Russian. No, we have meta tags that are well known to have been used by Russian intelligence. Try researching this outside the fake news right wing blog world and learn something.

"So this is one crucial point of questioning: What evidence can be shown that the Russian Government or agents acting on behalf of the Russian Government were aware of this operation? We haven't seen any as of yet. That's not to say it's not there. But if it was there, you'd have even the alt-righters calling for Trump's head"


I doubt that. Your post, with its dishonest assertions, loose claims, false statments, partisan language all suggest that the alt right will go down with the Trump ship.

 

Isn't that the truth!!!!!

 

Putin aide: Clinton advisers met with Russian ambassador 'lots' of times

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...sian-ambassador-lots-of-times/article/2617149[/QUOTE]
"Probably" lol in other words he has no idea

 

Because it was the Russians he was talking to who were being survailled. Try and keep up. I know it's hard when all your news comes from clickbait fake news, but do try!

 

I can see it all now, the little snowflakes burning cities down. Set up by their neoMarxists masters, stressed to their emotional boundaries, chanting no justice, no peace. Demanding their feelings about the truth should out way the actual truth.

 

Good. Let's axe all these criminal treasonous scum, and while we're at it, every scumbag politician who has finances embedded in Saudi Arabia, since they are by default funding terrorism, and every scumbag politician pitching healthcare reform that has taken big bucks from big pharma.

**** all these *******s.

 

The FBI doesn’t investigate ‘honest people’ -Trump campaign.

 

As a Tea Party Member, I completely agree. Its part of the reason I voted for Trump.

 

"There was no intent." - Comey.

 

You voted for someone who has been in bed with these criminal scum. I say axe him too. He's been in bed with these elitist ticks for so long he is one. I don't trust him or any of them.

**** them all, let's watch the bitch burn.

 

Na, I love my country.

Feel free to immigrate to Syria, if you wanna watch your country burn.

 

Well the actual justification was that Iraq was a threat to the United States. Since Iraq supported terrorism the

But did she deny rver meeting with the Russians.

 

You voted for the guy who assigned Bannon to burn down the country.

Hypocrisy much?

 

When you say MSM, do you include the most popular TV news media (Fox), the most popular Radio media show (Sean Hannity), and the most popular internet media website (Breitbart)?

Or do you have a different definition for the phrase "Main Stream Media?" Could I summarize your definition of "Main Stream Media" as "Media that discusses topics and viewpoints with which I disagree?"

 

I'm sure she would have tried to deny it, but She assisted in selling Russia most of Americas Uranium.

Why Hillary Clinton sold America’s uranium

 

No, that's just left wing snowflake bs.

I'm sorry your criminal didn't win. Get over it.

 

Which criminal? Clinton? I didn't and would never vote for her. I disapprove of political dynasties. Hence why I'd never vote for Michelle Obama, either. I don't quite get what you're getting at here.

We agree. I just go one president further then you; Trump. You think he's not the same as all the others. You posted a picture of Hildabeast meeting with the Russians as if that exonerates your (literally) golden savior from his treasonous activities. I see a lot of this happening on this forum; it's OK for the gilded god to do it because Obama did it.

Nah. We both agree; these politicians are all in bed with the enemy. I just go one further. Why not join me, and be consistent?

 

https://seo-hacker.com/what-are-meta-tags-and-why-are-they-important/ These meta tags? If so, it comes back to my first point: Anyone could have written those particular meta tags in Russian. I mean, we even have articles saying these things are hard to track. That's why they only have "high confidence" and zero PROOF. The sad thing for you is: A judge isn't going to accept that, I'm not going to accept that.

So the US intelligence "community" can say until they're blue in the face that they "think" the Russians did it, but their affiliation with the US Government does not in anyway elevate their opinions(to paraphase JakeJ).

At best, 'Russians' did do it, but we don't know which Russians, or why, or for what motive. Until Comey can answer ANY of these in a court filing, let alone the public domain, you have no reason to trust him.

You didn't quote me on collusions for good reason: You know my questions are even HARDER on Collusions because that's more flimsy. Comey has no case here. He knows he has no case, that's why he's "investigating".

I read everything you read(I got the date wrong for when the hacking began, sorry.) And I came to a much different conclusion: It's the mole inside the US Government that's the serious crime, the one the FBI would like to look the other way on. And kudos to Gowdy: He refuses to look away on that.

 

If the classified information you're talking about is leaving Flynn's name on intercepted phone calls unmasked/ not minimized, it is not illegal in his case. See the link/quote below:

Until Sally Yates informed the White House of Flynn's story not matching intercepted call transcripts, only the intelligence agencies knew that Flynn had been recorded. That explains his lies. He didn't know they could be countered. Once news of the transcript made it back to Flynn, via the White House, he changed his story tout suite. While I haven't seen the transcript, nor have found it on-line, I have only read accounts that there was one. Gossiping about information isn't the same as leaking a classified document. I doubt the transcript has been leaked, or it would be available somewhere online. Gossip can come from White House staff just as easily, if not more easily, than it can come from the intelligence agencies.

 

Recorded by whom, and at whose order? Where was this recording done? Trump Tower, who just so happens to be Obama's opposition?

 

Russians and other foreign nationals are always recorded. That's part of national security. Flynn called the Russian ambassador and got caught in that net. From his previous positions in security, he should have known that would happen, but it seems he forgot.

What I posted was that NOT removing his name from the transcript is not illegal. So, all this gnashing of teeth over the leak of classified documents containing his name is without merit. His name didn't have to be minimized, even though most American names are. Unless the document itself was released, gossiping about it isn't leaking classified information.

 

As I recall, Mike Flynn was a private citizen, so if he were being surveilled or wire tapped, that is illegal. If he were caught up in talking to foreign governments or in taking to ambassadors from other countries, that is another matter. Mike Flynn ran an Intel group for business and for Governments. The simple fact is, the Obama White House was angry with Flynn and Flynn felt like he was shoved into retirement for his views on Syria and the role Obama took. In fact, he went public with his views.

How is that Trump starts getting investigated in July, during the heat of the election when Flynn was onboard with the Trump campaign since February? How is it Obama has nothing to do with launching an investigation when he was furious with Flynn and campaigning with Hillary Clinton? It makes no sense at all. Especially given the fact that Obama has been caught wire tapping and spying on journalists, Heads of State and even the UN in the past. Illegally.

There is no way Obama did not get information on Flynn or was not digging into Trump, especially given their staunch refusal to accept the Russians or anyone could be interfering in the election. It was only after they lost, they started crying foul and dredging up stories that it must have some "secret collusion" that cost them the election.

 

no, it's OUR show, YOU enjoy it

 

The formal process had begun in the House of Representatives and it became a focal point over the court proceedings over the tapes.

However, it was never taken to the final stage because he resigned.


So we're both right. However too many people believe he left office as a result of impeachment.

The two others impeached were Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton; both were acquitted...the point being that it never came to a vote with Nixon

 

He certainly was very definitive (as well as the NSA) about NO EVIDENCE in Trump's accusation towards Obama!