Syrians Jets Hit Terrorist Warehouse Containing Chemical Weapons

Really?
You deny he has had opponents poisoned?

 

But you do argee, that he is not exactly a cold blooded murderer? At least, I never thought of him like that. Well, mostly never, if being honest. He was not the only man to make decidion about operation in Iraq, and it was not certain that it would go that bad, or will have such harsh consequences, that country is still, basically, broked in pieces. But you can't say he just 'did it because he's a murderer and wanted murder'. Or have motif to constantly insult him or his nation for that.

 

*sigh*

Read, what people say, if you want to know their actual point.

 

Any cheerleaders for "regime change by airstrike" want to give one cogent argument as to what benefits Assad gains from using chemical weapons on his own people?

The simple question that needs to be asked is this: who benefits?

 

Is there evidence of Putin's guilt?

 

Sir, if you had at all followed this assad and his alleged gassing, you could not with intellectual integrity buy into the neocon propaganda. So, you should laugh at your own blindness. You did not listen to what Ron Paul said, for he contradicts, or at least questions them, in a most honest fashion. I know I am more intelligent than you, for you have shut off your brain, as many have here. I find it alarming.

 

These people here who say assad is responsible will not ask the critical questions. The bullshit here is getting deep, so bring your shovel back, as I will. I am astounded by these people, who NOW trust their gov't and MSM.

 

It's always difficult to have strong feelings about people we've never met, never seen. That, sadly, is how it is with these places where our military goes charging in. Death and suffering in that situation is sadly distant and disconnected.

As for Saddam, I didn't buy into the demonization myself. Never cared for Bush, for that matter, so it was hard to take anything he said seriously. He was the first president we had whom I felt was terribly unqualified for such a high position. I probably would have felt similarly about Bill Clinton had I been older and paying more attention during his campaigns and presidential terms.

Regarding Putin, it's true we have to be careful not to get carried away with vilification, but then on the other hand, we must be careful not to be too naïve about the guy. Of course he is going to avoid leaving much evidence to incriminate himself, and being in the position he is in, I'm sure that he could manage that if he's smart enough about it. As I understand it, he has a lot of people under his influence who benefit from being loyal to him. Those who aren't don't fare so well.

 

So you trust the US who killed half a million kids in our invasion of Iraq. Get real, get serious, and take the blinders off.

Assad had everything to lose by using gas. Where is your brain? Who does not want peace in Syria and assad to remain? Therein is your culprit.. I bet you flunk Logic at University? Or just saw no need to take that course?

 

The dead speak for themselves.
Who else had a motive to see Putin opponents dead?
Obviously, nobody says Putin himself did it - he just ordered it done.

 

It's a question of motives and methods, I feel. Bush didn't go in to support a brutal dictatorship. The message here was to "liberate Iraq." However, that intention clearly didn't work out so well, as you've pointed out. Putin, on the other hand, is in Syria to keep Syria's version of Saddam in power and doesn't seem to mind when he kills innocent people, even when he uses chemical weapons. Instead he helps the guy run cover. Bush was a fool, Putin is not.

 

I'm astounded myself. There is ZERO critical thinking going on, just very emotional and tribal outbursts. The establishment politicians and media have done an effective job of branding Assad as Hitlerian, so when you already consider Assad to be Hitler, you just accept that any act of violence can be attributed to him, even if it works against his own interests. This is an incredibly stupid way to think.

Assad was cruising to victory. Neither ISIS nor the other rebels were going to dislodge him. The only way he could possibly lose is by a renewed international military effort to oust him. The only thing that could provoke such a renewed effort is another chemical weapon attack that could be blamed on him. And yet, this is exactly what happens. Either Assad is mentally retarded or this is a false flag. There is no other reasonable explanation.

Let's not forget the timing of this. Days after Trump reiterates his plans to stop efforts of regime change in Syria this just happens to occur and is used as a basis to change his mind? I call bullshit.

 

In Russia, Putin supports 82% of the population today. Does this mean that 82% of Russians live well?

Even more interesting - at the last speeches against corruption, the most provided fashionable young people with the "iPhone 7" in their hands. Does this mean that they live the worst? : D

 

For god's sake man. The opposition forces have this gas. Anyone can make it. We did it in chemistry. If the opposition have it and reporters discovered it, then what the UN said is political driven rubbish. Yet when it kills people, oh, it is assad? Why in the hell does the opposition have it? Just to look at it and admire it? Keep that switch on the off position. We might see a serious critical thinker if you turned it on.

 

Once again, it USED to be Russia Today - it is NOW Russian Television - but whatever.
I never said anything about censorship - I was pointing out that taking anything they say as truth is silly, since they are a propaganda outlet.
THEY MAKE UP CRAP.
ISIS vermin believe they are martyrs if they are killed.
You asked for who benefits - I gave my guess.
The use of gas could be a test by Assad to see what Trump would do.

 

Right, and why can't people see this? It is alarming, for these people also cast votes which determine our future. It scares the crap out of me how so many people have brains, and waste them.

Peace was very close for assad. We would no longer call for his removal. Then what happens when our position on assad changed? Gas attacks!! This is more criminal than what assad is accused of, as he tried to fight off invaders.

And now trump acts like he may change his mind on assad. Yet he questioned intel before which led us into war. I hope to hell he comes back to his senses and just used the critical thinking skills you and I are using. If not, something stinks, and he has been turned, perhaps forced. The hammer came down on him. For this is out of character, IMO.

 

I cannot vouch for all of RT. I can vouch for what I have listened to. I listen to programs that are run by americans, and who allow particular americans to appear as guests, men like ex cia ray mcgovern, ex nsa, 36 years with the nsa, William binney, john mcafee, dr. john paul Roberts, cofounder of reaganomics, and an assundry of ex cia officers. Mostly men the MSM will not talk to, for they offer contrary opinion, based upon fact. RT does not do pre-interviews, so unlike MSM, they will not censor their guests, or turn them down. Does that mean a thing to you? Well, it should.

I expect RT to not condemn Russia, as MSM will never condemn the US. That is to be expected. Yet RT will allow the men like I listed to give their views, whereas MSM blacks them out. So we need RT or we will only get the "official view" which rejects the counter view, from americans, who very well may have the correct view. But to call it pure Russian propaganda is nonsense.

The use of gas by assad was a test? To see what trump would do? Hell, he knows trump is surrounded by neocons, knows about McCain and Graham. Assad is not stupid. This was a false flag, to turn trump on assad. And he looks to be buying into it. So, it worked. I just lost confidence in Pres. Trump. Looks like he will be another neocon. For whatever reason.

 

"Human rights beacon"? Sounds like more of that hyperliberal, radical Democrat crap that frequently gets us mired in every bloody, expensive, and exhausting pile of s**t in the world since the end of World War II.

Now, while the radical snowflakes raise hell with Trump and chant, "Not my president!", I look at Syria, along with all the horrible crap in Africa, Eastern Europe, and other places where civil wars blossom, and I chant, "Not my PROBLEM!"

Your evident appreciation for aircraft carriers is noted, and it is shared by a few folks I know. Consider the very real possibility that with today's 21st-century weapons technology, an aircraft carrier is the equivalent of the 20th-century's "fixed fortification"! Regarding Syria specifically, the Russians already have a large naval base at Tartus, right on the coast, plus several air bases. Remember that Obama started his "red line" ploy by sending a carrier-based fleet toward toward Syria, but then suddenly thought better of it... probably for good reason. And remember that this little flicker of wisdom was displayed by a president who didn't even know the difference between a military "corps" and a "corpse"....

But in a larger sense, and assuming you're right in your general disparagement of Russia's warfighting capabilities, the fact remains that Russia actually IS a nuclear power -- in possession of more nuclear weapons than any other country, and, it is the Number #2 military power in the world (China is Number #3).

But, what the hell... we're so powerful, and we're so rich that we can probably just go ahead and blunder on in to Syria's civil war. We're already in Iraq's civil war, and Afghanistan's civil war up to our earlobes, and we've been looking for an excuse to get in Ukraine's civil war, too. Sure, let's go ahead and wade on into Syria's civil war. Like Bill Clinton's spokesmen chirped after we'd gotten involved in Yugoslavia's civil wars in the 90's -- "IN FOR A PENNY, IN FOR A POUND"!

Meanwhile, I'm dodging potholes in nearly every street and roadway I drive on, I'm dodging panhandlers with cardboard signs at nearly every major intersection, and half the population of the United States is permanently attached to one form of welfare-suck and "subsidy" or another. "Human rights beacon"? Sure... why not. We're rich! We can afford it!

."Together, we could destroy ISIS, but the Americans would rather oppose us? You're KIDDING!"
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No, just that Putin's control of the media is very effective, and I guess Russians like it when he bullies smaller nations and annexes parts of their territory as well.

I've read recently that he's made it illegal to publish images of him as a gay clown.

 

Trust the eye witness - there were all kinds of people, and way not a majority carried iPhones. Unless you mean not the rallies of 26 March but some other 'speeches'.

 

"You've got a war going on over there," Massie said. "Supposedly that airstrike was on an ammo dump, and so I don't know if it was released because there was gas stored in the ammo dump or not -- that's plausible." (6:35-6:50)

 

I already wrote about this in the topic on the real problems of Russia. We have a small regional courts that can make a decision that will affect the whole Internet. This is complete idiocy. Those. In this case, the decision was made not by Putin, not by the Kremlin, but this was a private decision of the petty judge. But now this solution must be fulfilled by all providers: - /

 

Just out of curiosity, where did you get the information that 82% percent of Russians are supported by Putin? People love to post opinions and statements, but far less frequently do they even bother to post any supporting facts and figures to back it up.

 

Yes, I'm talking about a protest rally on March 26.

 

You're wrong. Just the Russians don't want pro-Western sh_t rule Russia. F_ck Usa and f_ck EU...