Theresa May calls snap election

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  1. James7

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    This could be a shrewd move on the Conservative's part as let's face it no-one's going to vote for Jeremy Corbyn, he's too left wing.


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  2. The Scotsman

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    ....he's also a complete wanker!
     
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    No, he's not a wanker, but he's no PM. This country is stuffed.
     
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    He is a wanker. Utter utter wanker.
    Hates his own country madly. Sides with our enemies at every opportunity. A reactionary dingbat. Hates the mainstream for being mainstream. Just for being popular.
    Looks and sounds, harmless, modest and nice. Isn't.
    Sounds oh so smart if you are 19 years old. But he isn't. He's old enough to know better.

    SNP can't gain any seats, but they can lose some.
    They have peaked. The best they can hope for is to stay the same.
    Also they need Westminster to be seen as anti-democratic. the Tory's as illegitmate power stealing fascists. So mandate enabling elections won't please them.
     
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  6. James7

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    I admire Jeremy Corbyn for speaking out on issues of poverty in Britain with over 20 million officially below the breadline. I also admire him for speaking out on zero hours contracts and exploitation within the work force.

    However the facts are left wing leaders of the Labour Party never seem to win votes at elections.
     
  7. The Scotsman

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    maybe he should phone a friend....

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  8. The Scotsman

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    which as you say is admirable but its not his rhetoric he's just taken over from others. His problem is all the other baggage that goes with him like Diane Abbot!!!!
    The guy has a political mantra from the 70's. Life's moved on and left him and his clique behind. He's a dinosaur.
     
  9. Baff

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    I doubt Putin likes him.
    He's a dweeb.

    I don't like anyone poncey enough to call casual labour a "zero hours contract".
    If you aren't working class and can't relate to the working classes at all, don't pretend to be.

    "Zero hours contract" = palace speak for I know nothing about working for a living.
     
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  10. The Rhetoric of Life

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    If UKIP in North Croydon are anything to go by, then the whole party is full of crooks and con artists and knobs who'd spike your drink at a social gathering with urine.
    UKIP must think little of North Croydon given their choice of candidates in recent years.
     
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    Another 'playing-to-the-gallery' wanker.
     
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    Does nobody else think that May is trying to pre-empt a possibly more dangerous set of elections...the number of their mostly marginal constituencies being examined for election fraud....14 of them.....because if they lead to by-elections, there is much more chance of her losing her majority, or most of it, that way, than by holding a General Election in the middle of Brexit negotiations....and the CPS decision is seemingly due by the end of May/beginning of June. Rather fortuitous timing of the election, it seems to me.
     
  13. Baff

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    I don't know what she is playing at to be honest with you.

    I think it's good that she goes to the country for a mandate to run it. But I have no idea why she has or what she expects to gain from all this. An easy victory against a useless and divided opposition, while it is still useless and divided I expect.

    Alternatively, she is still trying to get out of Brexit and hoping to have a "second vote on EU membership" without actually having another losing one. To fudge the issue so that she can do as she pleases and not as her country directs. To give herself Fake Mandate for decisions she is not allowed to take but wants to.

    Been reading the Tory press today. Talk is all of getting a mandate for Brexit.
    But she already has one.
    In fact no greater political mandate has ever been given anyone in this country before.
    No political party in office since WW2 has ever had as many people vote for them as they did Brexit. She could not have a stronger mandate than she has now.
    So if she feels the need for a new one, it's because she doesn't intend to honour the existing one.
     
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    I’m not sure. Momentum could take the opportunity to mobilise their supporters in what is likely to be a low-turnout election. UKIP, if it pulls its act together, could make grounds with the “hard Brexit” supporters wanting to send a message to the government. The Conservatives aren’t going to get anywhere in Scotland or Wales but the other national parties might gain a little. The general lack of appeal of the major parties could serve the likes of the Lib Dems (who can only really go one way) and the Greens plus all sorts of minor parties, local single issue groups and independents. NI is up in the air at the moment so there is no guarantee of the Conservatives Unionist allies or the seats Sinn Fein don’t take remaining unfilled. On top of that, May risks ending up with more rebellious Conservative MPs than she has now.

    I can’t see anything other than a Conservative victory overall but I’m not convinced it will necessarily leave May in a stronger political position. It strikes me as a massive gamble.
     
  15. diamond lil

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    Two right wing party's some French election.

    :dual:
     
  17. Space_Time

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    Here's more:

    http://www.newsweek.com/british-gen...gration-policies-burqa-ban-fgm-islamic-588575

    BRITAIN'S UKIP TAKES ANTI-ISLAM TURN AHEAD OF GENERAL ELECTION
    BY JOSH LOWE ON 4/24/17 AT 7:52 AM
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    Ex-Ukip MP Douglas Carswell warns 'hideous' populists could usher in Western strongmen

    WORLDUK GENERAL ELECTION 2017
    British hard-right populist party UKIP has unveiled a string of “integration” policies that mark a significant toughening of its stance on Islam.

    At a general election campaign event on Monday, a series of senior party figures set out policies including a moratorium on opening new Islamic schools, closure of Islamic Sharia law councils, and a ban on veils that cover women’s faces in public.

    The party has traditionally focused more on mass immigration from other European Union nations. None of these policies appeared in its 2015 General Election manifesto.

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    Speaking at the event, UKIP Deputy Leader Peter Whittle said: “We are the party that talks not just about the economic effects, but indeed the cultural impact of migration.”

    “Nobody voted for multiculturalism and yet we are now living with the results of it,” he added.

    “A multi-ethnic society can be a harmonious and successful one if it is bound together by an over-arching attachment to Britain and British identity,” Whittle said.

    He said that face coverings “are a deliberate barrier to integration. They say: ‘don’t speak to me, I will not speak to you.’”

    Asked by a journalist at the event whether the ban would include other face coverings such as protective gear worn by beekeepers, Whittle said it would not. “We are talking about a face covering which is more often than not not the choice of the person wearing it,” he said.

    France and Belgium currently have similar bans in place. Limited evidence suggests they have been ineffective.

    On Islamic schools, UKIP education spokesman David Kurten said that “until there is far better integration of the entire Muslim community… there should be a moratorium on any new Islamic state schools.”

    About a third of state-funded schools in the U.K. have a religious affiliation, though the vast majority of those are Christian. At the start of January 2017 there were 6,813 state-funded faith schools in England, of which 27 are Muslim.

    The party’s women and equalities spokeswoman Margot Parker saidcalled for police to adopt a zero tolerance approach to ‘honor violence’. The party will UKIP would also introduce “schools-based medical checks” on girls at risk of undergoing female genital mutilation (FGM).

    “Rather than integrate and taking on the superior values of Britain, these Islamic communities … are becoming more and more segregated,” Parker said. “The main victims of this phenomenon are British Muslim women and girls.”

    Talking about Sharia law, Whittle said that “a society that can pick and choose a legal system ceases to be a society at all.” The party will establish a “legal commission” which will develop proposals to close Sharia law councils operating in the U.K.

    There are no definitive studies as to how many sharia councils exist in the U.K., but estimates range from 30 to about 80. They are not courts of law, but rule on religious disputes, with perhaps their most controversial work involving Islamic divorce proceedings.
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    Wow check out the propaganda the Tories are pushing. 'Strong and Stable Leadership in the National Interest' on placards with the Union Jack around the side. She really believes England has gone for ethnic Nationalism and that is what will get her votes - as well as believing that people will be so stupid that if they are they will fall for her line!!!!!

    Picture of placards at link

    https://www.theguardian.com/politic...tion-2017-may-corbyn-final-pmqs-politics-live

    National Interest is usually just used in times of war is it not?
     
  19. Baff

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    Then Union Jack isn't a symbol of ethnic English nationalism.

    Your prejudices are showing.
     
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    I never said it was. Context is everything.
     
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    Some good news. The Tories appear to be tumbling in the polls. Still way ahead of course but such a quick drop most certainly suggest things are not the done deal people thought it was just two weeks ago.

    http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/tyrannical-theresa-takes-timely-tumble.html
     
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  22. Baff

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    It's a done deal for the Tory's until Labour 100% beats the SNP.
    Which won't be this election or indeed anytime soon.

    Really dull election this one.

    The left divided and conquered itself.
     
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    And as if all that isn't bad enough . . .

    "Tony Blair announces return in bid to influence Brexit debate" I'm in a constant state of thinking I'm in some kind of bad dream and I'm gonna wake up to sanity.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politic...nces-return-in-bid-to-influence-brexit-debate

    Has this contemptible creature no sense of self-perception that he wants to pollute the world stage again knowing how much he is loathed?
     
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    Blair is almost the solution.

    A British Macron.

    Labour can't win. Corbyn attracts idealists, but not pragmatists.

    The field is wide open for a new centre left party. All that is needed is a charismatic.
    It only took 1 year for Macron's party to go viral.
     
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    There is no way you can say that, given the massive drop in her lead in the past week. Did it not begin at 26% - that means it has halved in two weeks. The fact that she is bringing Britain to the edge of a catastrophic Brexit http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-leaving-the-eu.479390/page-6#post-1067406673
    as well as it becoming known people's standard of living is falling and that will get much worse if we continue on this ignorant and hard Brexit approach(see link) gives no reason to believe her lead will not fall by the same amount in the next two weeks as it has in the past two and then it is gone.

    If need be some form of progressive alliance will no doubt be formed. We do not know how the election will go - that is reality. Pride often comes before a fall as May may well find out.
     

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