Court Rules Kentucky Print Shop Has Right to Avoid Making Gay Pride T-shirts

What part of their conviction is bigotry, intolerance, and hatemongering?

 

The difference being the final item, the printer would have refused the end product reguardless while the bakery refused the end product only to a homosexual couple (a heterosexual couple would have been given the cake while a heterosexual would not have been given a shirt). I disagree with public accommodation laws in general but there is a difference here.

 

Intolerant, huh? Kettle calling the pot black.

 

It was to a gay wedding, not the couple.

 

Protections in employment, housing, education and services / commerce just to name a few.

 

A wedding cake would have been sold to a heterosexual, it was denied to a homosexual because of their orientation. With the printer the shirt would have been denied to both a heterosexual and a homosexual - or anyone else for that matter.

 

Um, you do realize that the pro-gay justices still have a 5-4 majority, even with Gorsuch, right?

Now, that said, this is probably a bit different from a lot of the wedding-related cases because this is a service that the vendor wouldn't provide to anyone. (Not sure why straights would want gay pride tee-shirts, except maybe when they are being decent human beings.)

 

Unless they are religious, belong to a protected race, are disabled, are female, and so on... at that point you cannot deny service or refuse to rent your home or apartment; so force is indeed prevalent- so I'm not sure of your point. Did you have one? Take your reading comprehension and... well.. you know.

 

Actually, you have the right to refuse service to anyone for host of reasons. And, I hate to break it to you, your feeling don't trump anyone else's rights. If your reading comprehension was up to par, you'd know that.

 

Except the reasons I listed. Keep up

Unless you belong to a protected group, again, try to keep up with the discussion

You seem to not understand basic accommodation law, read up on it

 

Protected groups? Is that like a endangered animal or something? That's how ridiculous you sound.

Here's the 1964 Civil rights Act, where does it pertain to to this case, I'll wait.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964

 

And in these cases it is not you. The baker will sell you cup cake or a brownie, the tee shirt guy will sell you a tee shirt for your favorite sports team or band. It's the message or artistic creation they are being asked to produce to which they object.

 

Because of the message and symbolism on the cake or tee shirt which violates the moral convictions of the person being asked to produce them. Why would you attempt to force someone to do that.

 

People who don't want a gay pride tee shirt are not decent human beings? That's smearing a lot of people with a pretty broad brush.

 

Is the landlord being aske to paint the house with gay pride symbol or place a sign on the roof in support of homosexuality?

 

I wonder if I went into a print shop run by a Code Pink supporter and asked if they would print off a few hundred anti gay leaflets that I wished to distribute, how that would be handled by the shop owner and the press?

 

As you know, I am against this. The owner has a business license, and he is practicing his religion through that license, is my argument.

 

Where does a business license state you shall give up your moral beliefs in order to be able to earn a living in your business?

 

Oh spare me the histrionics. It's like your parents were Chicken Little and a snowflake.

 

So Christian book stores should be outlawed?
Can a business practice their politics?
What do you think of all those businesses that refused service to Trump supporters should they be shut down?

 

You are very snarky for someone with no idea what you are referring to, I guess that's typical though.

https://content.next.westlaw.com/5-..._lrTS=20170514145615040&firstPage=true&bhcp=1

Protected Class
A group of people with a common characteristic who are legally protected from employment discrimination on the basis of that characteristic. Protected classes are created by both federal and state law.
For further information, see Practice Notes, Discrimination: Overview and Recruiting and Interviewing: Minimizing Legal Risk: Protected Classes Under Federal Law.
Federal protected classes include:

• Race.
• Color.
• Religion or creed.
• National origin or ancestry.
• Sex.
• Age.
• Physical or mental disability.
• Veteran status.
• Genetic information.
• Citizenship.

 

What?

I don't believe anyone should be forced to serve anyone except in very narrow circumstances. But there are differences between making an identical product that you regularly sell and making a customized item as identified in court precedent.

Public accommodation laws are unjust and violate the XIV amendment, but are unfortunately law and I don't see them changing. And if I am forced to serve someone against my will because you belong to a protected class be damn sure I'm going to push to also become a protected class as well.

 

The business is also a tax payer, derp.

 

The business licence is from the state. The state and church are separated. So it's a bit weird that people can claim the licence is meant so I will only sell to my kind of Christians. Because the next step is, that you're making your store "Judenfrei".

 

I don't see you demanding this of Muslim stores in Detroit which have refused to service pro-gay customers and their request.