Withdrawing from the Paris Accord: Ttump's most damaging act of all.

That's doesn't specifically say anything about prohibition. Care to try again?

 

Which shows you that just "skimming the news" is never enough when something is this important.

It's what the right does, though. And it's how Trump appears to make these decisions.

Yes. And they have. They called it "The Paris Agreement"

 

What's in the agreement?

 

Best part is either the after pictures have in fact already happened OR they have been rendered to fear monger! Which is it

 

So... you didn't know that they get nothing if they don't give?

But now... why would they give anything now that the World's largest polluter has walked away?

 

When you get over your embarrassment, could you point us to the pledges to the Green Climate Fund by China and Russia. I have the link, but I can' seem to find the entries.

https://www.greenclimate.fund/docum...dges.pdf/eef538d3-2987-4659-8c7c-5566ed6afd19

I have an eye appointment next week, so I hopefully won't have to impose in the future.

 

You can wait all day as far as I'm concerned. I made no claims regarding that. I simply pointed out that the information contained in these claims came from an organization with a definate political agenda (global warming denial).

That's all I said. And I pointed out that that is a fact you can't deny.

That's all the explanation you're entitled to.

 

There's a creepy thought!

Staying in the deal cost the U.S. absolutely nothing. It was just a commitment to sit at a table where each country would decide what they would do. And which was designed so we could tailor it to our advantage a any time.

But the right fails to see the extent to which is damaging to us. Not just because we go back to square one, in which the most irresponsible leaders in the world: Russia, China, India, etc... get their way. And that the real objective in all of this (averting or mitigating the most dangerous effect of Climate Change) is obfuscated for purely political short-sightedness. There many other consequences.

The Paris Accord was an immense step forward. It brought the irresponsibles to the table. It most certainly does not go far enough. It is just one step forward. One that took a lot of effort and negotiations to achieve. Trump decided instead to take 5 steps backward. Because he not only undid what was done, but undid years... maybe decades... of U.S. leverage and influence in the world.

So, I agree with the sentiment that giving security clearance to employees of the Russian and Turkish governments is very bad. And so are using the office of the Presidency to generate profits or to use executive power to promote homophobia and racism, or lack of leadership even within your own party, .... and many etceteras... Those are all bad. But we can recover relatively soon after the dope in Chief is out of power. The consequences of withdrawing from the Paris agreement... not so easy.

 

Does our backing out undo the Paris agreement? If so, then it validates the decision. We will continue to be as environmentally responsible as possible. The only change will be that free-riders and scammers won't be getting money that we can't afford to give to them.

No, it wouldn't cost absolutely nothing to stay in the scam.

 

Obama made the mistake of not thinking that he might be succeeded by a complete moron. The Agreement was tailored so that any future President could change it any way he/she wanted. All they needed to do was stay in it.

 

I'm amazed at the ignorance displayed by the right. You can't even understand that the objective is to avert and/or mitigate Climate Change? Or that our being "environmentally responsible" will make absolutely no difference unless everybody else is?

If we had to pay for all of it, we should! But we don't have to if we have an intelligent President. Which, at present, we don't.

The real difference now is that we will have no leverage whatsoever with countries who are not environmentally responsible.

 

In reply to the title of this thread----------------------what a crock!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It will save the US billions and help US manuf.

 

I appreciate your honesty. Thanks.

 

He was too short-sighted, and simply didn't have the negotiating skills. Simply speaking, he didn't have the skillset to be an effective President, which is why in the end he governed by the pen, instead of by doing what Presidents are supposed to do--negotiate and work with all involved. I'm afraid for our country, because we have now elected two amateurs for President in a row--Obama and Trump.

 

Destructive thinking…

• Trump unwinds Michelle Obama's school lunch program rules. Giving children good dietary habits is not a priority for Trump.
• Trump unwinds Barack Obama’s health care program.
• Trump does not care about pollution. He does not care aout the planet.

So Trump does not care about the well-being of the poor people.

You are sick ? You can’t afford to pay for a treatment ? I don’t care buddy. You can die… I just don’t care.​

That’s Trump’s destructive thinking.

Do not follow Trump. Make our planet great again, instead.



Regards.

 

These types of posts leave me wondering...

Does the poster really believe this stuff?
Is the poster being paid to post?
Is the poster so invested in his particular set of beliefs that he will post the most outlandish things to attack the other side?
Is the poster trolling?

I'll just keep on wondering.

 

And there it is. Thank you for making it abundantly clear why we shouldn't pay any attention to what you have to say on this subject.

 

Hello, no I am not paid. And, yes, that’s what I am thinking. Furthermore, that’s what everybody thinks here in France.

In addition, we think that Trump is the worst US president ever. He is poorly educated, and obviously he does not have great academic knowledge. We did not like George W. Bush… However, Bush was far more educated than Trump. What we are seeing with Trump is just unbelievable.

Regards.

 

Thanks for admitting once again you can't back up your claims.

 

What are the specific reasons this was a bad idea.

 

Then its sad you are so willing to be controlled by a religious movement that has been proven wrong so many times in the past in predictions and you support an unenforceable agreement where your own side admits the change in temps would not be significant and you cannot explain specifically where the billions of dollars go if anyone was stupid enough to sign this agreement.

 

He'll just build a seawall around it. He likes walls as fake solutions.

 

The French should be required to consume the healthy Michelle Obama diet for at least a year before they make another squeak about making "our planet great again".

 

China has had the largest carbon foot print in the world since roughly 2010. It leads the world in heavy metal poisoning and water way pollution. The former Warsaw pact countries are far more heavily polluted than the US has ever been.

oh and for what it's worth, during the same time period China has more than doubled its CO2 production the US has reduced its CO2 by 19%.

 

That is an unfair trick question. Shame on you.