Trump proven correct: Report: 5500+ Noncitizens Discovered on Voter Rolls in Virginia

Okay, post your proof. Identify all these illegals, and then show me their ballots. This isn't hard.

Hispanics and blacks vote overwhelmingly Democratic. Yes, I know. Everyone knows that. It's been the case for decades, and those numbers are available, if nowhere else by exit polls. Not sure what they have to do with this. We aren't talking about them.

How many people self identify as an "illegal" when being asked who they voted for?

 

Don't be stupid.

So...if the vast majority of illegals are identified as Hispanic, you can cede the argument.

I think you should quit now.

 

Still no proof millions of illegal immigrants voted for Hillary Clinton.
In order to prove that was the case, you'll have to show how the illegals voted, and that's impossible.

 

So in other words, you're just talking out of your ass, and repeating what Sean Hannity or Donald Trump told you.

I deal in facts. I don't blindly follow others.

Trump appreciates your blind support.

 

I guess you never heard of "proportional representation", Denmark and about half the rest of ghe world's governments use this system, it's not exactly "popular vote" and varies from place to place. Here's a comparison of it with what applies in the US; http://www.democracy-building.info/voting-systems.html

The Electoral College system was devised to overcome the possibility a few more populous states could overcome a majority of less populated states, it works. Consider how seats in the House of Representatives are apportioned, with 435 total seats just nine states (California, Florida, Illinois, Michigan, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Texas and North Carolina) have more votes than the other forty one states.

I suppose there's room for improvement, it's a complicated system, needs to be better understood by the average voter, makes some states more influential based on how and when they designate delegates, this all could be adjusted, it's a very sensitive State's Rights issue.

 

So it's only bad if you win?

 

:facepalm:

WTF are you babbling about? You're actually attempting to contend that most illegals who voted didn't vote for Dems? When - by your own admission - Hispanics vote overwhelmingly for Dems?

That's a whole new level of derp.

 

And we like them so much we have 51 of them in this country and then the most important one where the States cast their votes.

 

You haven't produced a single shred of evidence. You know it, and I know it. I am not "attempting to contend" anything. I don't know any illegals, I don't follow people into the voting booth, and unlike you, I don't just blindly follow what the alt-right media tells me. You produce evidence of how many illegals voted and produce evidence that they all voted for Democrats. Until then, I'll not make any baseless contentions. I don't contend something I can't back up.

I'm sorry you have no idea what it's like to deal in facts and nothing else.

 

What planet do you live on or what country? In this one there is no national popular vote to win but there is an Elector College to win.

We don't want democracy in America and the Constitution makes sure of that.

 

Odd statement, residing on an opinion forum.

If you wish to corner the market on silly positions, you're doing well.

Illegals in this country are mainly Hispanic. Hispanics mainly vote for Democrats. Illegals mainly vote for Democrats.

http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/poll-13-of-illegal-aliens-admit-they-vote/

Let me know if you require further assistance.

 

You must come to a LOT of wrong conclusions. It may be true that whatever tiny % of illegals that actually made it to the poles voted dem. However, using the fact that most legal Hispanics voted dem as a priori proof that most illegal hispanics voted dem is lazy, stupid reasoning. Where I live the Hispanic citizens and illegal Mexicans are very different people - with different motivations and culture.

 

We're talking about illegals from Mexico here. There is no other group of people germane to the topic.

 

Yes you can get real rich in this country, what's your point it would be better if you couldn't? You can also lead what is considered an upper upper middle class lifestyle in the rest of the world here if you take responsibility for yourself and get out and do it.

 

ok. Do you have anything intelligent to add?

 

Murder is a legal term and you are correct killing unborn babies is not murder under the law. Doesn't bely the fact the baby is killed.

Nope it began a long time before then.

 

I didn't think so

 

Legally human life begins when the unborn is capable of surviving outside the womb. Traditionally what is required is "a sign of life" and this was the yelp when the infant was struck on the butt (it draws breath). Advances in medicine keep pushing this time back, premature babies ordinarily successfully survive at 7 months of gestation and it is not unusual for some to be delivered and kept alive even earlier.

Whether a human life begins at conception is a controversial issue that merits discussion of both science and philosophy, my view is that it does then begin and I support my view scientifically and philosophically.

I've no idea what this has to do with undocumented voting. I believe this would be rare, despite their number and tenure. I know lots of undocumented aliens in the US (all Hispanics and politically Democrats). All are more fearful of being deported than of anything else, many ought to qualify for citizenship (in more ways than just longstanding law-abiding presence), most simply failed to submit some forms on time and found the bureaucratic procedures too onerous while enforcement is lax. Over time their circumstances change and rights accrue, they marry, have children, buy property and get taxed, make a living, do business and hire others. They become stakeholders and have an interest in how they are governed. Nonetheless, the undocumented I've met are all fearful of "the authorities" and particularly the "federales", they wouldn't risk jeopardizing their situation voting illegally though they easily could.

 

Then how do "feticide" laws work? If a baby needs to be placed in an incubator, can he/she then be legally killed?

 

Once an infant is in an incubator, it is viable and killing it is murder. "Feticide" (presumably "phoeticide") would be the killing of a "fetus", that is, the unborn. This may result from the killing or injury of a pregnant woman whose "fetus" cannot be saved.

 

What you said: " when the unborn is capable of surviving outside the womb."

Then the unborn is treated as a HUMAN LIFE, as feticide is prosecuted as MURDER.

 

Only an idiot would belittle the research of two highly regarded economics professors (UofCal Zucman & Saez, here).

First we had Fake News now its Fake Economic Research? (And you purport to belong to Mensa?)

Stop the world I wanna get off ...

 

Two leftist " economics professors" who couldn't run a lemonade stand. I love how the left's Big Experts have NEVER ACTUALLY DONE WHAT THEY CLAIM EXPERTISE IN....
IOW=bullshit artists...who are clueless about ANYTHING, beyond the "theoretical" stage.

" If you CAN...DO; if you CAN'T...TEACH". Always been true...still is.

 

Piffle 'n drivel. Brutal sarcasm is your specialty.

You are beyond the pale and go onto "Ignore".