Mueller Resorts to Extortion?

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  1. btthegreat

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    I am proud of him. He's doing great work. Sometimes reluctant witnesses need some incentives to cooperate with law enforcement. Your local law enforcement also incentivizes cooperation by looking for some leverage. If there is nothing dirty or illegal back there, then Manafort will not have a problem. If there is, past criminal conduct should come to light for prosecution. Its win/win.
     
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    Desperate and scared...ain't ya....
     
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    So it's no longer a "collusion", "conspiracy", "Russia", "treason", "obstruction"... investigation... the Liberal house of cards has collapsed, the witch hunt and fishing expedition are alive and kicking.

    Got it. Thanks!
     
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    LOL, so multi-billionaire Putin openly (they would show up in business deals and financial records) paid multi-billionaire Trump obscene sums of money in 2008, for the off chance that Trump would win the presidential election in 2016 and lifts the sanctions that were placed on Russia in 2014, 6 years after Putin's payments.

    What a brilliant liberal conspiracy theory. Why didn't I think of that....well, I guess because I don't suffer from TDS :D
     
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    That's not true.....Mueller was put on as Special counsel to investigate into Russian collusion with Trump and his Team and the Russian Interference. Even Reuters reports that.

    So Investigating the Russian Influence.....would certainly cover Hillary and her Team Which we all know that the Podestas were taking money from the Russians and helping Putin and his boys get around BO peeps sanctions. Which the Panama Papers busted them out. We also know that John Podesta was BO peeps Chief of staff and he never disclosed his ties to the Russians. Took Russian stock and hid it in his daughters name.
     
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    They will be, sooner than you imagine. Trump is done playing defense and listening to advisors advocating "caution". And his base wants him, in fact elected him to fight back and drain the swamp. If you think Pelosi, Schumer, Hillary, Franken and co are not swamp creatures and have no dirt in their closets, then you have nothing to worry about.
     
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    What makes it even more Hilarious is that Manafort was Trumps Campaign manger for only 60 days, and then he had to bow out over his ties with Yani in the Ukraine. Which is another reason they are going after Manafort as the Demos feel that Manafort helped the Demos cause of pimping up the Corrupt Ukrainian Officials fail. Allowing Putin to make his move on the Ukraine and humiliating BO peep and the Demos.

    So Mueller couldn't find anything during that 60 days of working for Trump and hence has moved on to the fishing expedition.

    Collusion failed, then the Demos moved to obstruction and that was a fail. They will keep moving the goalposts until they find something. Anything, as they have gone all in on this deflection, to cover up their **** ups with the Russians and how with why they are compromised.
     
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    Can't be that great if Muellers Team is already leaking info out to the Press. Which Mueller should be confronted by the MS media as to how that is happening and what he is going to do about it. Warnings should be given to the Clinton Cult members that if they are caught. Their out and outed to the Public.

    Give them to us.....We the People. We will take it from there.
     
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    I don't think they should remove Mueller. What the DOJ should do is Appoint another Special Counsel, to look into the Russian interference and to look into Mueller's extra special relationship with Comey, and his ties with the Clinton Cult members he has hired on. Thus investigating Mueller for his conflict of interest.

    Now the DOJ has grounds to do it with Muellers Team leaking info out to the MS Media. He should have never let that happen.
     
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    Many feel what happened 12+ years ago may have a bearing on what is happening today. Many of Trump's associates, including Trump himself, have ties to Russia. Why has he not condemned Russia for interfering in our election? He is still equivocal about Russia's involvement, contrary to his own intelligence agencies. Why has not taken steps to prevent Russia from interfering again?

    Then there is this. Trump supporters do not want Mueller to look into this ... but he is.

    But even without an investigation by Congress or a special prosecutor, there is much we already know about the president’s debt to Russia. A review of the public record reveals a clear and disturbing pattern: Trump owes much of his business success, and by extension his presidency, to a flow of highly suspicious money from Russia. Over the past three decades, at least 13 people with known or alleged links to Russian mobsters or oligarchs have owned, lived in, and even run criminal activities out of Trump Tower and other Trump properties. Many used his apartments and casinos to launder untold millions in dirty money. Some ran a worldwide high-stakes gambling ring out of Trump Tower—in a unit directly below one owned by Trump. Others provided Trump with lucrative branding deals that required no investment on his part. Taken together, the flow of money from Russia provided Trump with a crucial infusion of financing that helped rescue his empire from ruin, burnish his image, and launch his career in television and politics. “They saved his bacon,” says Kenneth McCallion, a former assistant U.S. attorney in the Reagan administration who investigated ties between organized crime and Trump’s developments in the 1980s.

    The public record makes clear that Trump built his business empire in no small part with a lot of dirty money from a lot of dirty Russians—including the dirtiest and most feared of them all.

    https://newrepublic.com/article/143...ses-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate
     
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    There is little question the Mueller's relationship with Comey should have precluded him from taking on the job of Special Council.

    That is becoming more and more evident.

    Time for the White House team to push back. The idea that a Special Council doesn't have to abide by rules is ludicrous. Mueller is already ignoring a rule that obligates him to recuse himself. Turns out he's a weasel.

    Agree 100%. To start with, AG Sessions should empanel a Grand Jury to review the FBI evidence produced by Comey and see to prosecuting the private email server violation. That would be an excellent way to get the ball rolling...

    These leaks need to be prosecuted. I really don't understand the lackadaisical attitude of everyone involved when it comes to this issue. There is NO excuse for having to put up with people releasing information to the press. Heck, I'd start with a prosecution of James Comey, and work my way out from there.
     
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    You are exactly right, you have absolutely zero legal reasons and absolutely no evidence to investigate his business deals, nothing whatsoever, zilch, nada, ne , you can't even explain how his business transactions can possibly have anything to do with collusion, none of you has been able to even begin to explain what in 12 year old financial transactions can prove or disprove "collusion", "conspiracy" or quid pro quo related to 2016 election campaign..

    It's a witch hunt and fishing expedition and your post, like most others confirm it beyond any doubt... Glad you are at peace with this.
     
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    They need to be covered by the MSMedia and then prosecuted. Hard to focus on them when the MSMedia does all it can to protect its sources. Despite knowing laws are being broken.
     
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    For what? And is off-topic the best you can do? Lol! This is so pitiful.
     
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    I doubt it. Putin was using Trump and Trump was using Putin I suspect for other criminal money operations such as drug trafficking, prostitution, money laundering, shady real estate deals to move money around, doing business with terrorists, whatever.

    That's why they call them Sheep.
     
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    What nefarious activities?
     
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    In other words nothing to do with conspiracy, collusion, meddling, treason, campaign finance, obstruction...... These liberal conspiracies have fallen apart so on to new fishing spots. Right?

    The idea that Russian czar Putin with his unlimited resources and millions of KGB assets all over the world used Trump of all people to "move money around".... and if he did, you can find traces of that in Trump's business deals.... doesn't this suggestion strike you as the epitome of idiocy?
     
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    The leaks aren't going to stop, because the truth must come out. That is the function of Mueller and his investigation. Leaks generally meet the criteria of prosecution if they harm the U.S. This isn't the case.
     
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    The campaign conspiracy and collusion came later when Trump announced he'd be running for president.

    "Idiocy"? Trump was the Republican nominee. Putin would be an idiot not to feel Trump out to see if he'd take the bait. Putin already knew Trump was a criminal too. You people are so naive.
     
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    Right.... except of course, reported Mueller's investigation of totally unrelated (as you admitted) 12+ year old business deals which can't possibly prove or disprove an alleged collision/conspiracy 12 years later shows that these liberal conspiracies have fallen apart like a house of cards, under the slightest scrutiny.

    Suggesting that Putin was laundering money through Trump in 2008 or paying Trump a "retainer" in 2008 hoping that Trump would become president in 2016 and lift sanctions that had not existed until 2014 is idiocy.
     
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    Nah, apples and oranges. Hillary would have been surrounded by the same enablers and hangeroners the Clinton's always had to run cover for them. Trump's got nothing to hide.
     
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    Why can't business dealings years ago prove conspiracy?

    I never said or suggested Putin paid Trump a retainer for Trump candidacy. You invented that. I'm suggesting these criminal activities have been going on for years and both of them have benefited. You're just manufacturing false narratives to shield yourself from having to deal with or debate what any fool already knows about these two criminals and their associates.
     
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    If he's looking into presidential pardons he does.
     
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    You tell us, how more than a decade old business dealings can prove conspiracy, collusion, hacking, treason, election meddling that took place 10 years later in 2016? Please feel free to be as specific as you'd like.


    Given that there is absolutely no evidence to back up your "suggestions" and given that none of that can possibly have anything at all to do with Russia's meddling in the US elections, that Mueller was hired to investigate - it's a clear and undeniable witch hunt and fishing expedition, demonstrating that the original leftist/media Russia/Trump gibberish has fallen apart, as was expected by anyone with brain.
     
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    Yes, state prosecutors, secret police, secret courts, secret hearings.
    Smells like a clandestine attempt to overthrow the government of the United States.
     

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