Banning Muslim entry to the US will not stop terror

None of the groups you mentioned either exist or if they do exist it isn't in their belief system to kill all nonmembers and convert the others to the group.

 

You don't buy home insurance to stop natural disasters and fires. You buy it to control risk, that is, to CONTROL RISK.

Stop all immigration for twenty years. CONTROL RISK.

Also, make terrorism costly. Kill 100 of theirs for one of ours, then up the ante until it stops.

America First.

 

They still kill, does that make it alright to enter this country and quite possibly kill people?

 

It was a dumb comparison. How embarrassing for you.

 

Don't you think that is a little PC? Muslims are more trouble then they are worth. BAN THEM ALL.

 

Just like kicking out every middle aged white guy will prevent the Las Vegas type shootings?

 

So are bigoted pretentious white people.

 

You are just sore because you know I'm right.

 

Using libs logic---------------if banning muslims saves one American life wouldnt it be worth it.

 

I suspect the anti-western in general, and anti-American in particular, sentiment is a socio-political, rather than religious issue, emanating from Middle-Eastern cultures. Indonesia has the largest Muslim population of any country in the world, but I have yet to read of an Indonesian Jihadist committing atrocities in any western countries.

Extremist organisations, such as Al Qaeda and ISIS, exploit the medieval teachings of Islam to induce a largely ill-educated populace to do their will in the quest for gaining power and control, much as chieftains and dictators have done for millennia with Christianity.

"Gott mit uns" was inscribed upon Nazi soldiers' belt buckles, and the Tanakh has this instruction from Moses - "Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."

Every religion has been used as a tool for evil. The Inquisition was alive and well for 400 years, and an old woman had only to be disliked in the village, to be either drowned at the ducking pond, or hanged, or burnt alive as a witch. Islam has a long way to go to catch up with the death toll of Christianity.

And there is the remote possibility that if we - the West - stop invading, killing, brutalising, exploiting, and propping up dictatorships in Islamic countries, some of the resentment against us which brews in those societies might abate to some degree. Every little bit helps, and pay-back tends to be a bitch.

 

Who is advocating banning all Muslims from entering the US ?? BTW the author of American Radical is an undercover FBI agent who foiled several radical Islamic jihadist plots and is a Muslim.

 

It's a religious issue perpetrated by Islamist radicals.

 

Stop the phobia spreading. And I'm pretentious and Muslims aren't? Lol you have no experience with them.

 

What do you mean?

 

That, unfortunately for many secular Americans, is the issue their Constitution presents. I have my own thoughts on that obstacle, of course. But what the American government and people decide to actually do is something else entirely.

 

Unfortunately, Christians can also present a problem for a secular society. Or any non-theistic government. Don't get me wrong, I do not necessarily mind the banning of Muslims. I'm simply annoyed by seeing the American government (and European governments) ignore the other threat to the new Western society that is right in their "backyard".

 

While I disagree with much of traditional American ideology, I feel your attitude is exactly what secular Western needs.

 

True. If the religious-based ideology of those regions is not to be annihilated from the Earth, then at least leave those nations in poverty and to their own devices.

 

And your experience goes beyond calling them "*******s" I assume?

 

According to Sharia law :

• Theft is punishable by amputation of the hands (Quran 5:38 - includes graphic image).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing Muhammad or denying that he is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah is punishable by death (see Allah moon god).
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death (See Compulsion).
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A woman or girl who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• Testimonies of 4 male witnesses are required to prove rape of a female (Quran 24:13).
• A woman or girl who alleges rape without producing 4 male witnesses is guilty of adultery.
• A woman or girl found guilty of adultery is punishable by death (see "Islamophobia").
• A male convicted of rape can have his conviction dismissed by marrying his victim.
• Muslim men have sexual rights to any woman/girl not wearing the Hijab (see Taharrush).
• A woman can have 1 husband, who can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (Muhammad's words, Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination (see Quran 4:34 and Religion of Peace).
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife; a wife needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A divorced wife loses custody of all children over 6 years of age or when they exceed it.
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed in property cases, carries ½ the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits (see Mathematics in Quran).
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to eat must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be "Halal."
• Muslims are to subjugate the world under Islam (see Quran 9:29 and Palestine Issue).
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
and the list goes on.

What shocks the hell out of me is the acceptance of Islam (and therefore Sharia) by left wingers.
It seems to me the Sharia is an exercise in intolerance while left wingers claim intolerance is anathema.

 

No, letting as many Muslims come in as they can without any serious vetting, ala Obama and Clinton, is PC gone amuck.

 

Want to go over the laws of the Old testament? Don't get me started on eating lobsters! LOL

 

We've already imported Muslims and have Islamic terror incidents as a result, and will continue to be at risk of Islamic terror. Not only from first generation Muslim immigrants but second and third generation as well.

And you are arguing that bringing more in to our country won't compound the risks?

Poland, Japan, Hungry, and Slovenia do not have to worry about Islamic terrorism because they don't import Muslims. So logically....The less Muslims, the lower the risk.

 

I don't suppose you can actually prove that people were allowed to move permanently to the US without any vetting under Clinton and Obama to any greater degree than under other presidents?

 

No, the US invaded two sovereign nations and killed hundreds of thousands of people. Frankly, under those circumstances I'm not particularly surprised that americans are victims of terrorist attacks.

And would you know it; Poland, Japan, Hungary, and Slovenia did not do that, and consequently are not exactly at the top of the priority list of islamist terrorists.