But for republicans, there was no 1964 Civil Rights act nor the voting act

I have argued this ever since reading the record found in the congressional record. A lot of you really would find it interesting if you looked it up and read it. To see what is true vs spin by the media or the party. Everett Dirksen a Republican is why the civil rights law got passed. He was able to shove it over the top and end the filibuster of the Democrats. Let's not drift back 16 years sooner to the Dixiecrats. Their issue was other issues. And do not try to con me by saying republicans changed parties to be racists. Democrats showed no interest until well into the 1980's of coming out of being racists. So, this man should be part of your history.

 

Yeah, thankfully those Northern and Western Liberals passed those acts over the opposition of Southern and Midwestern Conservatives.

 

Conservative? Funny, a new term for Democrats.

 

Are claiming those Southern hyper-moralist Christians who opposed race mixing and federal government power and clung to their guns and bibles were liberals?

 

All you have to do is look at how the congress voted. A higher percentage of republicans voted for it than democrats did.

Democrats also fought against the CRA of 57'.

Even JFK voted against that one.

 

Despite Kennedy's assassination in November of 1963, his proposal culminated in the Civil Rights Act of 1964, signed into law by President Lyndon Johnson just a few hours after House approval on July 2, 1964. The act outlawed segregation in businesses such as theaters, restaurants, and hotels.

 

Yeah, why were those Southern Conservatives by and large more bigoted?

 

Liberal is now a total misnomer.

Do you know this. About 27 percent of this nations presidents owned slaves. I have not tabulated the percentage of congress.

Were all of those presidents conservatives?

Actually they were liberals.

 

Despite Kennedy's assassination in November of 1963, his proposal culminated in the Civil Rights Act of 1964, signed into law by President Lyndon Johnson just a few hours after House approval on July 2, 1964. The act outlawed segregation in businesses such as theaters, restaurants, and hotels.

 

Kennedy was frightened the issue would sink his chances with the Democrats. I remind you Kennedy died in Nov of 1963. Johnson promised if he got the law passed, he had the blacks in the palm of his hand for a century. Seems he was good at predicting.

 

Margot 2, did you vote for John F Kennedy and or Lyndon B Johnson? I did.

 

You my dear said you were a republican then. So were they that bad, you were for suppressing blacks.

 

JFK and his brother were hardcore racists. The only reason they moved on Civil Rights at all is that it had so much momentum that it was unstoppable and political suicide to refute it any longer.

 

They were liberals by the modern concept of the word and as it is associated with the Democratic Party?

 

Before my time.

 

You didn't realize that Southern Democrats in the 60s were conservatives?

Add that to the list

 

I was a Republican and I did support the civil rights act. Country over partisanship.

 

I was a Republican and I did support the civil rights act. Country over partisanship.

 

And here's the real story. Yes the Republicans were the reason the Civil Rights Act passed. And it was also what completely changed the Republican Party...and not in a good way

http://billmoyers.com/2014/07/02/when-the-republicans-really-were-the-party-of-lincoln/

The critical test came in the Senate in June, 1964. Republicans aligned with northern Democrats to break the segregationist filibuster. Then, 82 percent of Republican senators backed final passage of the measure, as opposed to two-thirds of Senate Democrats.

The change came quickly. Two weeks after the Civil Rights Act was signed into law, the Republican National Convention in San Francisco nominated for the presidency Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater, one of the handful of Republican senators who had opposed the measure.

Two months later, a key Democratic foe of civil rights, South Carolina Senator Strom Thurmond, switched his party affiliation and began working to remake the Republican Party so that it could appeal to Southern white voters. Thurmond was an essential backer of the campaigns of Goldwater in 1964, Richard Nixon in 1968 and Ronald Reagan in 1980. His influence on Nixon, who developed a so-called “Southern strategy” to help realize Thurmond’s vision of a transformed political map, was immense. It extended deep into the decision-making process for the selections of a vice president and Supreme Court nominees.

 

Soon after..Republicans who supported the Civil Rights Act were either forced out or voted out of the Republican Party.

 

Great you were in the party that passed the law. There was no way for Johnson to refuse to pass the law.

 

See, Democrats want to make Liberal to mean anything they want it to mean.

 

More to your comment. At the time I was a Democrat and that issue was not on my radar. Not where I grew up.

But republicans made the sausage get cooked and sold it to Johnson. Johnson of course wanted to hog the credit. But there are those pesky records of what the congress does on a daily basis. Those show who did the work and who wanted the credit.

 

OK, I'll play:
Here is the list of US presidents who held slaves.
Washington
Jefferson
Madison
Monroe
Jackson
Van Buren
Harrison
Tyler
Polk
Taylor
Johnson
Grant

It's pretty much ALL the presidents until Lincoln (johnson and grant were after lincoln, but had owned slaves before then)
Those before Lincoln who did not own slaves are Adams, Adams, Fillmore, Pierce, and Buchanan.

With all that information, please come up with a cogent argument that it was only liberals who owned slaves, and not conservatives. Please also let me know which of these presidential greats I can now call liberal (washington and jefferson seem to be prety nice feathers in my cap)
cheers

 

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND? NEVER, EVER REPORT THIS KIND OF CRAP. THE DEMS WILL GO INSANE WHEN THEY ACTUALLY FIND OUT AL GORE'S FATHER VOTED AGAINST CIVIL RIGHTS.
IT'S ALL RIGHT LIBS. HE DIDN'T MEAN IT. PUT THE BASEBALL BATS DOWN AND GO BACK TO YOUR BUNKERS.