Handguns cannot be banned...

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  1. Vegas giants

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    Upset you are ignored? Lol
     
  2. TheDonald

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    In a number from 1 to 10 how many free African Americans there were in Virginia in 1806?

    You are clueless
     
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    explain, he is merely quoting a law. that does not contain any assertion on how many free blacks or mixed race individuals there were at the time
     
  4. TheDonald

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    This law if it existed covered no living human as there were no free African Americans in Virginia.
     
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    and you are certain there were no freed blacks or mixed race individuals at that time?
     
  6. TheDonald

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    In 1776 yup I am sure
     
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    If such is true, then the people who think we should "move on" from the Constitution should be able to push a Constitutional Convention to address that. Failing that, you've got no basis for your opinion.
     
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    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote...."
     
  9. DoctorWho

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    Or a Lamb deciding to have two Wolves for
    lunch !
    POW ! POW ! POW !
     
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    https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3#15

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    Defensive Use of Guns

    Defensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence, although the exact number remains disputed (Cook and Ludwig, 1996; Kleck, 2001a). Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million (Kleck, 2001a), in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008 (BJS, 2010). On the other hand, some scholars point to a radically lower estimate of only 108,000 annual defensive uses based on the National Crime Victimization Survey (Cook et al., 1997). The variation in these numbers remains a controversy in the field. The estimate of 3 million defensive uses per year is based on an extrapolation from a small number of responses taken from more than 19 national surveys. The former estimate of 108,000 is difficult to interpret because respondents were not asked specifically about defensive gun use.

    A different issue is whether defensive uses of guns, however numerous or rare they may be, are effective in preventing injury to the gun-wielding crime victim. Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual

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    defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was “used” by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies (Kleck, 1988; Kleck and DeLone, 1993; Southwick, 2000; Tark and Kleck, 2004). Effectiveness of defensive tactics, however, is likely to vary across types of victims, types of offenders, and circumstances of the crime, so further research is needed both to explore these contingencies and to confirm or discount earlier findings.
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    At least as prevalent as the violent crime. Interesting. AT LEAST. ;)
     
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    you need a police request letter as well
     
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    A Dealer per say does not own Dealer samples, they remain quasi property, to be used in tests, to be repaired or modified, in research and development, but never as personal property of any non authorized person.

    Refer to B.A.T.F. warnings on this topic.
     
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