63,000 people in USA died from drug overdoze in 2016.

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  1. Llewellyn Moss

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    Who says it's patients who die? It all can be sold under the counter to drug users, or by patients selling it to drug users.
     
  3. TheDonald

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    So you need help snorting meth
     
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    who snorts meth? me thinks you don't know what you're talking about.
     
  5. TheDonald

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    True I do not use meth so you would be the expert. Lol
     
  6. Max Rockatansky

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    Correct, then if one of the very few affected by those side effects, mention them to your doctor.
     
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  7. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed. So are we in agreement that there should be no drug laws nor laws against assisted suicide?
     
  8. BleedingHeadKen

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    If you support the war on drugs, then you tacitly support that criminality and the drug lords who profit from it.

    Fortunately, not everyone is as totalitarian as you. Hence, the powers that be find it difficult to implement what you claim must be done because the backlash would be horrific. There are even some people (*gasp*) who believe that people should be free to buy, sell, and do with their bodies as they please without interference from totalitarian busy-body do-gooders like you.

    Now, if only the Soviets and every other authoritarian dictatorship had arrested anyone participating in a black market, they would have wiped those black markets out. Right?

    Even Kim Jong Il fails at that. Apparently, you would have us live in American version of North Korea to save us from the scourge of government-verboten substances.


    It's also fascist and totalitarian. The state doesn't rightly own your body, despite what you claim.


    We know damn well where the international drug labs are, we know where the drug lords man
     
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    I don't use meth, but I know plenty of chemical recreationist.
     
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    yeah, if you want another drug that controls that and has numerous terrible side effects.
     
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    The entirety of my post was about the consequences that society is subjected to because of drug use, not about what people want to put into their bodies.

    For example: I don't care what you eat for dinner, its not my business.

    But if what you eat for dinner brings crime to my community, puts me and my family at risk, takes money out of my pocket, then you better damned well believe its my business.

    And anybody who wants to stand in the way of a solution to this critically serious problem with their little "anti-fascist" protests signs is nothing more than a metaphorical speed bump to be /cough run over.
     
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    So you know the people that you sell meth too.......................Excellent

    I applaud your honesty
     
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  13. Max Rockatansky

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    So, if I understand you correctly, you don't use doctors. What do you do when you are sick? Nothing? Go to Walmart and by OTC meds? Look up magic potions on the Internet? I'm curious and looking forward to learning your solution.
     
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    Who smoke, snort or shoot up substances from dubious sources? Do they also distrust doctors?
     
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    lol, nice
     
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    The patients can be in pain, their choice.
    Insulin can kill you fast if you abuse it
     
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    well, most folks don't ask for an alternative. I takes precautions that limit cholesterol, high blood pressure, diabetes, and other chronic diseases. then, I ask for alternatives to prescriptions that have minimal side effects or refuse meds with huge aside effects. I research the diagnosis and treatments.

    your response proves my point that doctors should be held responsible
     
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    I know mayors and degenerates. doctors and roofers. some decent folks have terrible vices. some are atop the social spectrum, some are at the bottom.
     
  19. Max Rockatansky

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    Yes, doctors not only should be held responsible but are held responsible as noted earlier in the thread.
     
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    Sure, I agree. however, doctors hold a position of authority. their direction in some cases is not the best. they should be held accountable.
     
  21. freakonature

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    ok, where is the measures to limit the pharmaceutical plague growing in the nation? I haven't seen any movement toward a solution.
     
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    You realise they made pain a vital sign and spanked doctors for years if it was neglected?
     
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    This includes the plague of psych meds being pumped down everybody's throats, to cover up poor parenting and kiss everybody's booboos away.
     
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    Specific companies and personnel pushed the myth that opiod drugs were not addictive and would not be a problem for victims of severe pain.

    They lied and now many people have died.

    why isn't Trump pursuing criminal charges?
     
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    Nobody forces you to escalate your frequency and dose. Patient autonomy remember? You asked for it, you got it
     

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