Russian lawyer questions why Mueller hasn’t contacted her

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For months the left wing media and many Trump haters on this board claimed that Trump Jr's meeting with this woman was all the proof they needed to show Trump colluded with the Russians and Mueller hasn't even attempted to chat with her???

    That tells me Mueller knows there was no collusion and going after the side show porn queen is just a way to drag Trump through the mud and justify his existence.

    If any particular story should prove to the leftists on this board that there was no collusion it's this one. Sorry libs, your Russian collusion conspiracy now sits with Clinton and only Clinton.


     
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    And of course there's this...

    This entire thing is a fabrication.
     
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    So what?

    If Mueller finds no evidence of "collusion" he just moves on to Obstruction, Money Laundering, Etc.

    No "collusion"?

    Nobody cares.

    Next. :bored:
     
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    I agree. The Fox story is Trump propaganda not even cleverly disguised.
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What was Trump Jr. doing discussing sanctions with this Russian when he was not part of the government. Are you saying Trump Jr. committed a crime by violating the Logan Act??? And why you are so quick to trust a Russian commie mouthpiece??
     
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    i am sure all of this is nothing like you said.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/media/384366-hannity-hud-shell-companies-report
     
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    this isn't about Donald Trump or the media or Russia. It's about you.
    Tearing down a democracy to steal away your vote isn't about Trump it's about you. They hate you Trump is simply a lightning rod the NRA is simply a lightning rod the church concept of there being two sexes. Those represent you. Even if we look at secular things the concept of learning achieving and accomplishing are the things they hate. That's why they invent words like privilege and cultural appropriation.

    They are doing their very best to poison the majority with their hatred and vitriol.

    Think about it isn't it strange how through the past 30 years 40 even the concept of a white supremacist has become alien and then all of the sudden they're the worst problem we've ever had. They aren't against white supremacist they don't care about them they're against you and they're trying to make everyone think that that is what you are.

    I'm willing to bet you've been called a Nazi and a white supremacist maybe even a bigot by these types.

    This Mueller crap and call me and all this bologna is just smoke and mirrors. It's an attack on America on us.
     
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    If mueller finds no evidence he will continue the investigation anyway

    The goal is to bring trump down
     
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    No the goal isn't to bring down Trump. The goal is to bring you down. To Gaslight you to shame you to get everyone around you to despise you because you voted for him. If they don't give a s*** if they split the earth in two. They want to take you out Trump is but a stepping stone.

    They have attacked Christianity the family your freedom of speech your second amendment rights.

    Mueller and this Russia nonsense besides being just nonsense is a red herring.
     
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    A few potential reasons why Mueller has not spoken with her:
    1) He has access to her interviews with other investigative agencies and does not think a personal interview necessary
    2) He has other witnesses and lines of investigation which demand the time of him and his investigators
    3) She is not telling the truth or is wrong about whether she has spoken with any member of the Mueller team
    4) He wants to wait to question her about the meeting until after he has gathered information about the meeting from other sources
    5) Mueller believes that a meeting between multiple high ranking Trump campaign officials and individuals that they believed were providing politically damaging information from the Russian government about the political opponent is not important to an investigation of Collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

    Suffice it to say, my money is not on theory #5.
     
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    Amen . Truer words can't be spoken. Well said.
     
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    If only I could spread the word.
     
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    I hear ya.
     
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    People don't like to think that is what is happening. But having been a lefty and seeing the light, that's exactly what it is.
     
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    I agree with you 100 % . I been called every name under the sun.
     
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    If if nothing there, jay walking, loitering, etc :roflol:
     
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    No, I still think collusion is the key. The circumstantial evidence remains very strong, and not one bit of it has been refuted, either.

    Money laundering and obstruction are very obvious as well. This is the way Trump operated in private as well, making shady deals with shady people and then trying to cheat them (as they tried to cheat him), alienating the legitimate business community who know he can't be trusted, and trying to intimidate people that are, or might be involved in litigation against him.

    You have to remember that it is all about him. Not the American people, the nation, or the Presidency. He could care less about any of that. As long as he slicks by, and he keeps the rubes cheering, he's won in his mind.

    There is no reason at all to take the word of Ms Valnitskya. She was part of the Russian conspiracy, and an intelligence asset. She has not, and will not tell the truth. own words. Besides, we have the essence of the meeting in Don Jr.s Devin Nunes' credibility has been hovering between zero and negative numbers for a year now. Other than doing stand up on Fox, he is as irrelevant as he made his sham of an "investigation".
     
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    Most of what you say is false, but it is an excellent example of the far right wing persecution complex.

    There is no question at this point about exactly what Donald Trump is. That the far right chose to elevate and fawn over a crooked, weak, serially corrupt and dishonest and morally bankrupt buffoon is nobody's fault but their own.

    No one is gaslighting anyone. Trump is what he is. He's not a hero He's not a savior, He's not a christian, either. Indeed, he has ripped the thin shroud of respctability off of evangelicals across the nation and made hypocrites of all of them.

    He's the pied piper.

    And it is Trump who is splitting the earth in two, alienating our allies, emboldening our enemies, and undermining America's standing in the world at almost every turn.

    There is little doubt in my mind that the day will come when many folks like you will be pretending that they were never Trumpsters in the first place. That's what happened with George W Bush. And it was the same audience both times. Of course, the Trumpsters moved on to Sarah Palin, tri corner hats, and birtherism. Given the shallow tabloid world view, the serial resentment, and the ever present whiff of racism among many, Trump with his bluster, his fake billionaire act, his empty promises, and his race baiting, were ready made for the former Bush dead enders.

    Trump will exit the same way George W Bush did. Discredited, disowned, and disowned (he can't be dishonored).

    The world can only hope that the flat earth right wingers finally learn something out of it, or, failing that, retreat to teh lunatic fringe from which they came.
     
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    She was deeply involved with democrats too.
     
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    Why on earth would Mueller want Russians who are willing to testify and may contradict a narrative concocted by his inquisition? It's a lot more convenient to indict 13 Russians who'll never testify than talk to one Russian who will.
     
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    She is Russian, she is tied to Putin, so she will speak only lies. Why bother talking to a liar, and a Russian liar at that.
     
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    LOL, Trump haters have totally lost it, they think prosecutors don't and should not talk to key witnesses whom they suspect of lying. :D

    Newsflash, in any court (or impeachment hearing) if they attempt to present the meeting with her as evidence, the "NO" answer to defense's "have you tried to depose her" question will get this specific piece of evidence thrown out with prejudice. Jeez.
     
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    You are correct

    This is really a batle between the Deep State and trump voters

    But bringing down trump is their way of didempowering the voters
     
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    Part of the transition team and not illegal to talk to foreigners.
     
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    And you still have nothing.
     

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