Legalize employment contracts for sex?

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Legalize employment contracts for sex?

  1. Yes, employment contracts for sex/prostitution should be legal.

    27.3%
  2. Yes, but only if the company registered its locations as brothels following brothel regulations

    36.4%
  3. Yes, but only if no specific age, race, religion or sex is specified and if registered as a brothel

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  4. No, I oppose prostitution employment contracts - opposition to legalizing prostitution

    36.4%
  5. No, I like the Pretty Woman Hollywood portrayal of prostitution, not actual reality

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  6. The ads should not be legal, but those terms of a signed employment contract should be legal.

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  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So far, I am the only member on a prostitution poll voting to keep it illegal. I exclude government licensed brothels and state it should remain a misdemeanor, with pimping a felony.

    Some had noted some people hire prostitutes, but also for conversation and companionship - meaning a contract for sex can also include other employment duties in addition to sex.

    Prostitution is an employment contract for sex and an employer certainly can reject hiring anyone as a prostitute for any reason, including race, religion, age and sex. Accordingly, these employment advertisements should be fully legal if in principle prostitution should be legal:

    MISSOURI BEEF (Missouri Beef is a huge company) EMPLOYMENT ADS:

    Wanted: Female Executive Assistance. Requirements: Age 18 and up. Young, petite, attractive. Being white is a plus. Must pass STDs test and pre-employment physical sex proficiency testing. Job duties: data entry, records keeping, telephone reception, all sex acts as required by upper management with whoever assigned to have sex with both in company management and potential customers. Being a natural blonde with blue eyes a plus.

    Wanted: Female. Age 18 and up. Young, height-weight proportional, at least a D cup. For auditing shipping, recording shipping records, and sex acts with shipping department employees as directed. Must pass STDs test and physical sex proficiency testing.

    Wanted: Female: Age 18 and up. Young, bilingual in English and Spanish. Maximum 12% body fat. Latino appearance a plus to the right applicant. Job duties include sanitation work, line clean up, auditing production, and sex acts with male butchers on the cutting line. Must be agreeable to all sex acts including but not limited to fisting, anal sex and fecal play. Must pass STDs test and physical sexual proficiency testing.

    Wanted: Bisexual male. Young. Petite. Being black a plus. Job duties including accounting, telephone reception and all types of sex acts with men and women as assigned. Must pass STDs test and physical sexual proficiency testing.

    Resumes would include requiring nude photographs of the applicants. The job interview would include having sex with multiple men of the of the personnel department and/or other management personnel to determine who is most sexually skilled as one of the considerations for employment. Testing also might include keyboard skills and other job requirement testing and a company paid STD test.

    All non-management jobs in general would require agreement to having sex with whomever management requires and STD testing at company expense on demand – and this also would require allowing any sexual innuendos and sexual touching.

    ^ Legalized prostitution – which those involving in threads advocating legal prostitution on the forum advocate for.

    Should those help wanted ads be legal? If not, why not? Those are the elements of the prostitution business, isn’t it? Hiring prostitutes that are the most desirable is also how prostitution works. No one would be forced to take the job, it is entirely voluntary. Nothing would prohibit having other job duties as well, rather just adding sex to the list of job duties.

    Would it be legal if specifying race and age was removed? What if there were no ads, just those conditions is written, signed employment contracts?

    Such an employment contract would eliminate any potential sexual harassment claims and lawsuits as this was within all employment contracts.

    If prostitution should be legal, all of the above should be legal as that is what prostitution is. Do you agree? If not, explain why you claim professional prostitution employment should be illegal? This is how employment works in some 3rd world countries, though without a written contract.
     
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    TNHarley Well-Known Member

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    Does Clark Co Nevada have a bunch of problems with their legal prostitution?
     
  3. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So your answer is yes, the ads should be legal? You didn't answer the poll.

    You do know that prostitution is illegal in Clark County, don't you? Since you seem to claim there is no problem with it now, then there is no reason to legalize it, is there?

    Actually, in Clark County there are 4,000 arrests for prostitution per year. Brothels in Nevada in small cities where allowed they are going broke. In short, even in smaller cities where legal in brothels, neither customers nor prostitutes use the brothels. Few people will use brothels and there is a majority of public opposition to them. So, in reality, brothels are not even an issue.

    I think you are one of the many people who have the Hollywood Pretty Woman and Old West whorehouses view of prostitution, combined with platitudes detached from the actual reality of prostitution in real life.
     
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    i just checked and you are correct. It is legal in the rural areas. My apologies
    There are also 7 functioning brothels.
     
  5. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Legalized Prostitution INCREASES sex and human trafficking:

    "While sex trafficking implies force, fraud or coercion, it may not be easy for either consumers or law enforcement to distinguish individuals who are selling sex with their consent from those who do not. In a legalized environment, unlawful commercial sex acts can therefore masquerade as legal. In addition, with respect to the researchers’ second proposition, prostitution has long been a stigmatized practice. Legalization could therefore substantially increase demand, not only by removing the deterrent effect of punishment, but also by reducing stigma, which would make sex trafficking even more profitable. The net effect of legalizing prostitution may thus be, at worst, an increase, rather than a decrease, in the prevalence of trafficking.

    A paper that analyzed up to 150 countries suggests that “countries where prostitution is legal experience larger reported human trafficking inflows.” A study of two different sources of trafficking data in Europe similarly concluded that sex trafficking is “most prevalent in countries where prostitution is legalized.” In my own research on the same topic, I have also found results that suggest a relationship between legal prostitution and sex trafficking.

    It is also true that prostitution laws have consequences that stretch beyond the realms of modern slavery. Policymakers have to be concerned not only with sex trafficking, but also with other factors, such as the welfare of those who voluntarily engage in prostitution."


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/realsp...izing-prostitution-may-not-work/#5e7be1016678


    It is a myth that all prostitutes voluntarily are prostitutes. Legalization makes prosecuting forced prostitution nearly impossible to prosecute as it just just a woman's statement versus that of the pimps - and the woman has little power by comparison. With prostitution illegal, there is no duty to prove the pimp forced the woman into prostitution.

    Again, in my view prostitution should remain a minor misdemeanor to keep it off the streets, but pimping should be a felony. With prostitution illegal, anyone who takes a percentage ofthe prostitution fee would be committing a felony and it only necessary to prove money was received by the pimp. Whether the prostitution was voluntary or not would not be even relevant.


     
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    There are escort services. Maybe those can be the template for legalized prostitution.

    Re sex trafficking of coerced people, it happens more because those victims are without agency. America always had a tough time prosecuting sex victims.
     
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    It's a state issue. Get your state to vote on such things, then maybe it will speard.
     
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    I voted to keep prostitution illegal. See no human benefit to constantly lowering standards of conduct. I want the johns to suffer like legal jeopardy to what the prostitutes face. Stiff felony penalties for pimps.
     
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    I voted for it to be legal. Contracts are not legally binding if coerced or if signed by minors so if a person chooses to sign that and for it to be binding they would be doing it as adults and willingly. If they are coerced or minors then other laws step in to punish the criminal employers.
     
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    You won't ever eliminate prostitution so you may as well control it to remove minors and sex trafficked women.

    I voted for Brothels, whilst not perfect has the best potential of protecting the women involved.
     
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    I chose the follow selection and I will explain why:


    My explanation to the opposition to prostitution is solely based upon the reality of what prostitution actually is. Sure some males and females will defend the practice by stating that it is a matter of choice and freedom, which in my opinion is based upon both immaturity and promotion of the causes prostitution. Prostitution has its origin in child molestation and abuse, so if you are pro-prostitution, you are pro-child molestation and pro-child abuse. It is a known fact the pederasts and pedophiles support prostitution and other practices such as the use of narcotics, lowering the alcohol consumption age, child emancipation, etc. These are the main reasons why I oppose prostitution. To me, anyone who abuses a children or children in any form should be executed via firing squad.
     
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    Please provide proof that prostitution has its origins in molestation and abuse. Sure there are many prostitutes that were molested and abused but then again there are many people in general that have been. I am not going to say you are wrong but I want to know what research you are using to make the assertion that there is a over riding causality. Because I am sure there are plenty of Prostitutes that have not been molested or abused as well.
     
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    source: http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/019251391012003007

    source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2149593

    There is plenty of information that substantiates the fact that prostitution has direct connection to pedophilia and pederasty if one cares to find it.
     
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