East vs West. Who is stronger - the SCO or NATO?

keep thinking that. Yeah that's it, NATO is just a political bloc. So tell us all why Russia is so afraid of it if it's just a bunch of politico's gabfesting?

 

Landing of NATO soldiers ashore

 

Russia afraid??? Russia is not afraid of anyone. And Putin has talked about this many times. "Russia can destroy any aggressor" is Putin's direct speech. And by the way, it's obvious for everyone who has a brain.

 

And anyone with half a brain knows that rhetoric and fact are two entirely different things.

But I do understand how you believe that every word out the Chief Thief and his mob is manifest in reality. Often slavish dedication can be amusing, but in your case its just sad, understandable but sad.

 

I do not believe the heads of the EU and the US. Therefore, I do not understand your feelings.

 

Cute. I was referring to the Kleptocracy of Putin. But you knew that. He and his cronies have raped the Russian people and sadly the seem to enjoy it.

Who knew that Putin's job paid so well. Here's ONE of his houses purported costing $1 billion (probably 80% of which was graft).






and who knew the Prime ministers salary could afford this

 

It’s premature to talk about the SCO as a fully developed counterpart to NATO. I don’t see these countries putting their necks on the line for each other. At best, China or Russia might exploit an already existing conflict between the US and the other. So for example, if Russia entered into a military conflict with the west, China might expand its hold over Southeast Asia shortly afterward. In that case, the US navy could probably win the day in the pacific while NATO forces in Europe maintained security of allies there. Even in a two front war, NATO would likely function as intended (I hesitate to call it a “victory” but NATO members would be successfully defended.)

That’s all based on current data though. It’s not hard to foresee a time when this will not be the case. If things continue as they have been, probably not.

 

The US economy is bigger than that of every SCO member combined. The west has too much economic might. Look what we've done to Russia's economy lol.

 

You destroyed the Russian economy.

 

The Russian economy is being decimated by Russia and its choices. By land grabbing and alienating world financial institutions while literally forcing sanction and disengagement with a middle finger salute they have done it to themselves. Apparently the Russian people are oblivious for the most part as to what their great leader is doing because internal propaganda blames everyone else so this will continue and likely get worse.

 

To seize the land and return your land - these are different concepts. Crimea always belonged to Russia. Russians live in the Crimea. Khrushchev gave the Crimea to Ukraine under a treaty of friendship. There is no friendship - there is no contract. Yeltsin was drunk and forgot about Crimea when he broke the Soviet Union. Crimea returned to Russia - this is historical justice.

 

It would be more accurate to add NATO minus the US and SCO (whatever the hell that is) together

Because the euros are not reliable allies anymore

 

Like I said....it will continue and probably get worse.

 

If you compare Russia 90's and modern Russia - it's like hell and heaven. Bandits killed people on the streets, people did not receive salaries and pensions, oligarchs sold all the plants, oil, gas and did not pay taxes. There was a terrible war in Chechnya. Do you think that the Russians want to overthrow Putin and return to hell?

 

Actually, to be honest I simply do not care what you folks do as long as you keep it to yourselves. When you start screwing around with MY country or friends I need to pay attention and it pisses me of...I am sure many in Georgia were pissed as well. I say WERE because now they listen to the same propaganda you do and have little to no idea what people outside think of the people inside. Russian sabre rattling and Impotent threats have become beyond annoying and constant critique of everyone else while being...well...Russia in addition to this Cyber war troll garbage have damaged any respect I once had for what had been a proud and worthy nation.

 

The state of Ukraine did not exist until 1918. This state was made by Lenin from Russian regions and cities.

 

My dear Destroyer of Illusions ....

Does this question really face the realities as it is now?

Thanks to Trump's Twitter diplomacy of a jerk that just looks like this ...




Not only were relations with old enemies like you Russians or even the Chinese more hostile ... No ... even the relations with his close allies and friends are now only a ruin.
Anyone who still relies on the US as a reliable partner is quickly abandoned! Trump has shown us that drastically and this is what makes serious thoughts about relations with others like you here in the EU and in many member states of the EU and also NATO.
I do not want to talk about ending NATO, at least not yet, but Trump is doing his best to drastically change the fabric of the world ... ultimately to the detriment of the US, but not to the detriment of others.

When I read such idiotic expressions and answers that these punitive tariffs are against China and why we Europeans are upset because they are also against us .. and then we are also accused of mingling with China, or serious accusing asking if we want to help China against the USA with our anger, then I know where the mental intelligence in the USA has left!

n short: If this continues as it is at the moment, then your question will not be asked in the post anymore ... so it will be superfluous by further events!

 

Have you voluntarily imposed sanctions against Russia? Have you voluntarily supported the fascist regime in Ukraine? Your politicians and your media are silent about the marches of the SS in the Baltic States?... In other words, you got exactly what you wanted.

 

I know we have. It's awesome. Remember when Russia had a GDP above $2 trillion?

https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/gdp

lol

 

I do not know the value of this house, but I think it's not cheap. How do you think it costs a billion?



This is also the house of Putin. And he bought the Louvre French ... In general, he has many houses.

 

Who is stronger depends on the determination of the people. If it was Western Europe, Russia would be determined, but not the rest. If it was Japan, China would be determined but not the rest including Russia. I think the US would be the determining factor, and how closely allied it is with the enemy. I read that Russia and China are going to further their military alliance.

Would Nato be determined to fight Russia. Only the paranoid nations like Poland, or the apartheid ones in the Baltics. As for the rest, they will be too busy fighting the enemy from within. And as for the Islamic republics in Russia like Chechnya and Dagestan, they hate the Takfiris, so like the Sunnis that rejoined Assad, they will definitely support the Russian Federation..

China has commercial interests in the ME and especially Syria. They also do not want their Uighur terrorists returning to China - no more than Russia wants the Chechnya and Dagestan terrorists returning to Russia.

 

Lenin was the father of Ukraine and they are tearing down his statues and honoring Bandera, for what? For exterminating the Poles. Brilliant! But even more brilliant than they are, are the Poles. Their troops are in Ukraine ready to fight for them. You figure!

2018 march in honor of Bandera's birthday. All that is missing is the Nazi Hymn:

 

Actually Vladimir Putin's house is the small one in the middle. But since it's located in Washington DC, and he doesn't know when it might be confiscated, he decided to buy the Pentagon as protection. It was quite cheap you know, we have a lot of debt.

 

We deserved what we got in Vietnam for allowing liberals to dictate wartime strategy.

Bet we don't do that again...

 

Hahahahahahaah! What a totally clownish response. Putin is the chief thief in the Russian Kleptocracy and you pathetically attempt to defend him as if he's some kind of true blue champion of the people.

With your ridiculous pro-russian anti american posts and your lame defense of the indefensible does more damage to your beloved Putin' reputation than it prevents, and sadly you are completely unaware of that.