Pro-Life? Adopt a kid!!!

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    What states ?


    The fetus has NO rights until born, you are correct.

    Yes, it's right since a fetus can't have more rights than anyone else, THAT isn't right.
     
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    It isn't easy for nosy busybodies who think women should be punished for getting pregnant..
     
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    But if they were not would thee be the people waiting to adopt? Would they all have families to go to? Por would we see a return of the Victorian work houses!
     
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    Ummmm you DO realise that a baby being born in the ninth month is a desirable outcome dont you? Even pro choice Rs have no problem with that
     
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    Only because those late term abortions are almost invariably for foetal abnormality incompatible with life. Can you imagine the cruelty of telling a woman her wanted loved baby has no hope of survival past birth. That she will bring it into the world to watch it suffer and die?

    Are YOU heartless enough to do that to a family?
     
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    Catholic Charities locally is not an adoption agency but will provide free advice during the process. They advise not to start the process unless you have $30,000, because the process is very expensive. Father Flanagan can't give you a child for free anymore and tell you to do your best.

    If you get a child your $30,000 is gone; your new child and you are far less secure having no money.
     
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    This is actually a pro-life video but it does illustrate one dilemma facing those whose pregnancies have gone tragically wrong

     
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    Fostering is usually easier but people want to adopt babies not foster children
     
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    Guess those "precious lives" do have a price.

    Maybe Anti-Choicers should start looking into why it costs so much, object, contact their representatives, put their mouth where their mouth is.


    You: """your new child and you are far less secure having no money""

    ...which is one reason women have abortions....
     
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    Oh, this old narrative.

    Just for reference, I am pro-choice and have adopted two kids, so I think I have every right to weigh in on the matter.

    This perspective is a fallacy from the start for the following reasons, opposing murdering a fetus does not make one responsible financially or otherwise if the fetus were to come to term.

    I oppose domestic violence too... does that mean I have to personally be responsible for housing battered women or paying for them?

    What you fail to understand is that in any scenario, you are pushing the responsibility AWAY from the responsible party, in the first instance to parents of the fetus, and in the latter the abusive husband.

    Your attempt at "gotcha" is based on a fallacy.
     
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    I am about as conservative as they come, at least in terms of financial considerations, and i have two daughters. Not girls, not kids... daughters who are not mine.

    Its called being a man.
     
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    No one said you couldn't.



    That wasn't the point. The point was if life is so "precious" to Anti-Choicers then why don't they step up to the plate and adopt needy children?


    Why does "precious life" ONLY apply when it's in the womb?





    I would think you would be IF you opposed laws against domestic abuse.





    Yup, it's the female parent who should have all the responsibility, and does, for having a child OR NOT.

    It is NOT anyone else's business unless they want the responsibility for caring for children who didn't get aborted because abortion was made illegal or difficult to get.



    irrelevant


    Nope, it's based on the FACT that life is inly "precious" to Anti-Choicers IF it can be used to control and punish women.
     
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    Just as soon as liberals start adopting illegal alien families.
     
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    Why don't you go ahead and pat yourself on the back.
     
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    I like this point because what it says is a person should only have an opinion on that which they have done.

    Do not be so quick to judge or condemn others until you have walked in the others shoes and understand where they have been.
     
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    Good advice to those who will never be alone, broke and pregnant...or just pregnant...
     
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    Who does that? Who waits until the last months to abort?
     
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    I did took about for years
     
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    A few thousand women a year.
     
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    off topic
     
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    Really?

    Got proof?

    Better yet got proof they were viable pregnancies?
     
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    I don't like kids myself . Let the poor mother's raise them.
     
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    Talk about poor journalism!

    The link in that biased puff piece was to a CDC report that only went to 2008. Abortion rates have declined significantly since then. It also played with the statistics by liumping "late term abortion" into a group that included data from 21 weeks on. 21 weeks is still non viable. We know that abortion rates per gestational age decrease

    This is UK data but is applicable world wide

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    If you look at the post I was originally referring to it was claiming that abortion was allowed up until delivery
     
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    Where? What were the conditions? Where are the stats and REASONS they did that?????
     
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