"France" won the World Cup

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  1. Taxonomy26

    Taxonomy26 Banned

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    They look French to me!
    Beat the poor Croats, who were not an all-star team of the athletically superior Race/continent.
    Kinda like the NBA, only France has half as many Blacks as the USA does percent-wise.
    And yet!


    France's Paul Pogba celebrates after scoring his side's third goal during the final match.
    PHOTO: ASSOCIATED PRESS

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    I don't know how you can say that France has half the proportion of black people than USA because ethnic statistics are forbidden in France. Furthemore, black and arabic populations are much younger in average, because they left daddy and mommy in Africa. So there is a lot of young african for almost no old african people.

    However, yes, there is an ethnocide in France.
     
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    Antoine Griezmann is picked as the Man of the Match. Griezmann scored two goals before two more goals by two black players. Griezmann is a key French player equivalent to Kane for England. Both France and England added African players for extra strength but key players are French and British, respectively.

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    http://www.latimes.com/sports/soccer/la-sp-world-cup-france-croatia-20180714-story.html#

    "...Sixteen of the 23 players on the team come from families that recently immigrated to France from places like Zaire, Martinique, Cameroon, Morocco, Angola, Congo or Algeria. Forward Antoine Griezmann, the team’s leading scorer, is half-German and half-Portuguese.
    Defender Samuel Umtiti, who scored the goal that sent France to the final, was born in Cameroon.
    Teenage prodigy Kylian Mbappe is part Cameroonian, part Algerian."..."
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    Your title and opening sentence has me :laughing:, "They look French to me!"

    Well what if I proposed that French is a social construct and not necessarily a look/race?
     
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    Then you'd be playing semantic games.
    France was established and populated by the Euro/Cauc/'white' Race.
    the fact they have immigrants now, doesn't change that.
    The Recent wave (mainly 1st/2nd gen) immigrants are OF COURSE legal if France deems it so (DUH), but Not traditionally (or even mainly culturally) "French."

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    Your point of view came from looks not culture. Your post seems to tie race in with culture when it is culture that stands alone. You also forget that two Caucasian French scored for France. You are hilarious.
     
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    Face it guy:
    You thought you were smart enough to play semantic games with me..
    You weren't.
    Bonsoir
     
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    désolé tu avais tort :laughing:.
     
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    Yes, but the first wikipedia article mention it : it's illegal for the state to collect data about ethnicity. Furthermore, there is a huge difference with black people of the USA : most black people of the US are born in the US, and so there is more a mix of old and young black people, when you often miss the generation of grandparents in France.
    Furthermore, I don't think we can mix ethnic black people (people from Guadeloupe, Martinique, french guyane and many more territories) and black people who are migrants.

    I don't like a lot my country to get 1500 years of history to be denied as a "social construct". Furthermore, it's people too. By the way a lot of french people have some ancestry of other european countries, sometimes arabic, but it mostly happened because of invasions.
    The ethnocide of french happened in many steps. The first was the revolution, the second was the cultural revolution of the sixties who destroyed the french culture, and we're now at the last step of the ethnocid : the ethnic one. People aren't killed, but France is just becoming a world state, without it's own culture, just a soulless place were people pass. The dream of globalism.
     
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    I'm not using the words 'social construct' as a means to deny anything. It's just a simplistic way of incorporating philosophy, history, language, culture, disciplines, way of life, etc. into a couple terms.

    I wholly agree with you regarding globalism and am against it myself.
     

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