After Helsinki: Sh**storm Fall Out for Trump in the US

Then the left would whine that he started an unjustified war even though that's what they are pushing for.

 

But outside of silly rhetoric Trump is doing just fine by the numbers.

Its very telling that the left has to focus on a stupid meeting with Putin as their rage outlet.

Not jobs, not the economy, not some silly war somewhere.

Seriously, if this is their greatest complaint I think Trump should be smiling.

 

Interesting ... only topic missed!
It's not about Trump ever meeting with Putin ... but about his behavior and his statements, which annoy even the right wingers in the US.
Where was the Ukraine and Syria as a topic abruptly suddenly ... or even North Korea?

And as for this idiotic attempt at justification with war, etc. ... where was your Trump defender a few months ago, threatening Russia over the poison gas incident in Syria, eh? You had been silent or beaten on Russia!
So forget this hypocritical attempt directly!

 

Ukraine is over and done. Obama sat on the pot with his thumbs up his Columns of Morgani, passed and moaned some hot air, that's all.

If you think it important to reset Ukraine back to where it was, all-out war is the only answer.

 

Fwiw, the Democrats had been wanting to overthrow Saddam Hussein for a decade before Bush became President.

 

Funny ... your hero Trump saw it not long ago differently ... but no matter. We already know the American mission accomplished. But of course all again Obama guilt!

By the way ... I have always been in favor of Crimea going to Russia ... Trump not and that's the difference!

 

small hand and "little wet noodle" lol

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/ce...in-news-conference/ar-AAAbhfW?ocid=spartanntp

 

Are those Republicans who are voicing disbelief at Trump's remarks loosing their minds too?

 

There is no collusion or conspiracy between Trump and Russia. That's all a smokescreen put up by the left. What's happening is that the degenerate, barbaric left wants power. And this is the pathway they have chosen to make towards that end. As far as the faults, mistakes and imperfections of conservatives. There will be time enough to address those after we have defeated the lefts assault. Until then, we will fight the filthy hordes, unshowered.

 

I thought it wouldn’t be long before the ‘lefties’ were brought into the discussion. Unfortunately for you not one ‘leftie’ was present in the Helsinki two man debate and we have the tapes and Trumps word to prove what he said, so I’m afraid you have to prepare yourself to be able to cuddle up to our new Russian friends.

 

This is just the usual spitting, sputtering fake putrage of anti trump liberal news media

Nothing to see here folks

 

Bush and Cheney were making up the Intel in order to start the war for profit.

 

What kind of revisionist history is this... the only major ally who supported us was lap dog Britain. France, Germany, Canada and so on did not.

You are clearly not informed on this topic. The history has already been written .. go read it.

 

What profit again?

Do you know that Cheney froze his assets and signed a legal document than any money he made from his investments in corporations like Haliburton would be donated to charity.

Bet you didn't know that did you.

So tell us again about this profit.

How much of Iraqi oil did America get?

Would you be surprised to hear that it was zero.

So where is this profit?

 

If you believe any of that crap, I got some swampland in Florida to sell you...lol...Cheney is a lying war profiteering scumbag.

 

Blair was also a disgrace. People here wanted him tried for war crimes (and still do, including yours truly) but Gordon Brown wouldn't allow it. The political elite always protect each other, no matter the personal animosity between them or what the crime.

 

Yes, I can tell by all the proof you provide that you are correct.

lol

But here, I will provide mine.

https://www.quora.com/How-much-money-did-Dick-Cheney-make-from-the-wars-in-Iraq-and-Afghanistan

 

Not on all things ... only when they are intentionally creating propaganda and misrepresentations.

The Bush admin had good intelligence - which they ignored in a Rush to war.

 

Proof my ass. What you provided was a self serving article written by one of Cheney's buddies.

 

I watched the presser. But I'm not aware that Putin passed papers to Trump? What's being reported about this?

 

Bush had to make the call.

He had iffy intelligence and we had just been hit.

Hit hard.

If he did nothing and we got hit again it would be on him, if Iraq wasn't planning something and he took them out it was going to be on him.

Nobody else in the world had to make that call, he alone did.

He chose to defend America.

Turns out that he probably didn't need to do that but he didn't know that at the time and all of us should take a second to put ourselves in that position and ask "what would I do".

Remember watching the towers fall?

I do.

It was one of the most painful, hurtful times in my life and I rarely ever get angry but that made me rage like I've never done before. I felt for the people suffering, I was afraid for my own life, not knowing if something else was coming, and I was angry that someone dared attack my home, my country.

So lets cut Bush some slack, its easy to criticize today after we know the facts but lets not forget that time and what was going on.

 

Fine, prove me wrong and I will humbly apologize.

Show us how much money Cheney made off the war.

The ball is in your court sir.

 

You cited a blog from a message board...There is no telling how much Cheney or any of his neoCON scumbags made off the war. They were sending C-130s full of $100 bills on pallets over there and bag men were carrying suitcases full of money out and over to banks Cypress. Get a grip girl.

 

Good point. Did LBJ know that the "Gulf of Tonkin Incident" was just a pretext for war?
Or was he misled?