Former CIA director: Trump's news conference "nothing short of treasonous"

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    You must have missed the part where doing I suggest is a large part of the reason Trump was elected in the first place.
    If the Democrats want to double down on that for 2020, you're sure to see Trump win again.
     
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    Of course he can. Impeachment is a political process.

    But it would clearly be wrong of the legislature to impeach a President because he prefers chocolate over vanilla ice-cream.

    It's up to the people to ensure the legislature only uses this power in the case of actual criminal wrongdoing or gross failure to perform the duties of office.
     
  3. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Why would these e-mails influence someone to vote for Trump and/or not vote for Hillary?
    Yes.... the Russians brought toothpicks into a battle of modern armored vehicles.
     
  4. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    No argument here
     
  5. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    The emails were small potatoes. They got the dnc analytics. Invaluable to have your opponents analytics
     
  6. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    your addiction to smiley faces is kinda weird.

    Oh look ridicule in the absence of substance because you can't come up with anything. Its a juvenile attempt worthy of you.



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  7. Jonsa

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    I don't that is the entire point. YOu were the one that first asserted a difference in the private and public settings, not me, I just used your logic to proffer the other side.

    That actually is reality, chuck.
     
  8. TOG 6

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    So, is it wrong to argue the release of the DNC emails influenced the "buying decision" of some significant number of undecided voters, as claimed?.
     
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    And when Mueller comes back with a number of indictments that involve trump campaign members and even perhaps family, I can bet you won't admit you were wrong. You'll just start screaming about the "deep state", while ignoring the evidence because you know its "biased" against trump because Hillary lost the election. Guaranteed.
     
  10. TOG 6

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    You avoided my question. I'll ask again:

    When Mueller comes back with no charges/accusations of collusion against Trump or anyone in his campaign, will you admit you were wrong, will you riot/burn/loot, or will you shoot up a baseball practice?

    Well?
     
  11. The Mello Guy

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    It’s not wrong, but it’s unproven and less concerning than the analytics
     
  12. REALITY CHUCK

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    Okay, present your evidence. Statistical analysis is not evidence.
     
  13. TOG 6

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    Ok, then - more accurately...
    The claim that the release of the DNC emails influenced the "buying decision" of some significant number of undecided voters cannot be proven.
    Correct?
     
  14. Durandal

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    So far, it seems Trump is walking back some of his insanity from yesterday.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ccepts-u-s-finding-russia-meddled-in-election
    Trump Reverses Summit Remarks, Saying He Accepts Russia Meddled in Election

    President Donald Trump said Tuesday he accepts the conclusion by U.S. intelligence agencies that Russia interfered in the U.S. presidential election, marking a rare reversal from comments just a day earlier.

    But even with a prepared statement in hand, he introduced doubt, saying that the meddling in the 2016 election “could be other people also.”

    Trump came under a torrent of criticism from Democrats and Republicans for statements at his summit with Vladimir Putin in Helsinki Monday casting doubt on U.S. findings that Russia interfered in the 2016 election.


    Trump told reporters Tuesday at the White House that he misspoke at the summit.

    “My people came to me and some others, they said they think it’s Russia,” Trump said Monday, while standing next to Putin. “I have President Putin, he just said it’s not Russia. I will say this, I don’t see any reason why it would be.”

    On Tuesday, he said he meant to say he didn’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be Russia.

    He said he realized he needed to clarify his statement.

    “I came back and I said, ‘What is going on? What’s the big deal?”’ Trump said. “So I got a transcript I reviewed. I actually went out and reviewed a clip of an answer that I gave, and I realized that there is a need for some clarification.”

    ‘Accept’ Conclusion

    “I’ve said this many times,” Trump said. “I accept our intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election took place. Could be other people also. A lot of people out there.”

    Trump said the summit with Putin still “was our most successful visit” on his European trip.

    ...

     
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    Or disproven. But correct
     
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    Trump did not say he does not accept Russia meddled in the election.

    He did say Putin strongly denied doing so, which as anyone with 3rd grade reading comprehension will tell you, is not the same thing.

    Thus, we see the genesis of the uproar from the left.



     
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    Why would anyone be influenced by the DNC e-mails to vote for Trump / not vote for Hillary?
     
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    Ah, no, it is the shrieking, lunatic Left that sees no difference between a NEWS CONFERENCE and what they might talk about in private. It is in private where things get done, not the public patty-fingers of a NEWS CONFERENCE. That's reality, Jonsa.
     
  19. Curious Always

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    I don't believe his explanation. He can't believe our guys and Putin at the same time, and he said he believed Putin.
     
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    I see the Democrats are having none of it as well.
     
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    Please provide a quote to that effect, with a cite.
     
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    What Trump said is he sees no reason why Putin would interfere in the election. More than that, Trump is angry that this is conflated to the Trump campaign. Trump is angry that this issue is linked to him and Russia. Democrats meanwhile plow that field though they have no crops showing.
     
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    Translation of below: I trust my guys, but maybe not on this.

     
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    Trump did not say he believed Putin. But if you understand indictments, check out the indictment of Robert Menendez and learn how that worked out for those who indicted.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...a84725dbf9d_story.html?utm_term=.6e5d93d7191d
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...6d4bc32f223_story.html?utm_term=.37c38f18a697
     
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    And so you -cannot- provide a cite where he said what you claim he said. As expected.

    Trump said:
    "President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today"
    Where is the statement that he believes Putin at ALL, let alone more than US Intel services?
     

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