What is democratic socialism everyone is talking about.

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  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    IMO democratic socialism is majority sanctioned theft. Take from the workers and give to the shirkers. Politicians that promote this can always depend on the vote of the shirkers. The lazy back sliding drones of course think it is a wonderful idea.
     
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    What do you think Tariffs are? Taking from consumers to bailout uncompetitive workers.

    But you are cool when Trump engages in socialism, right?
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I look at a country that charges us a tariff as some one that is screwing us. There should be a zero when it comes to a balance of trade
     
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    Why? Do you believe it’s bad when money leaves the country? Are you a mercantilist? Don’t you know that Adam Smith disproved that idiocy 300 years ago?
     
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    I haven't heard anyone talk about democratic socialism...
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How do you think we got 20 TRILLION DOLLARS in debt???????????
     
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    Have you not been listening?
     
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    ...what?

    You seriously think the trade deficit applies to the national debt?

    You can’t be this stupid.
     
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    Adam Smith was sympathetic with government operations and deeply concerned about workers and the poor. A lot who cite him have never actually read him. He would have been appalled by free market capitalism given his religious views I believe and his sympathy for workers.
     
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    Apparently not to the people you have. I read a lot of press, I never saw this raised before today..
     
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    Who said anything about the press?

    A lot of Democrats/liberals/progressives have been talking about democratic socialism and I’m a liberal before you try to claim I’m a Rightwinger.
     
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    It’s in his head. He has these types of conversations with himself all the time.
     
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    Democratic Socialism is different from Social democracy. Democratic Socialism is socialism with more democracy (workers still own means of production), while social democracy is a highly regulated form of capitalism, with a social safety net, like free education, universal healthcare. (capitalism + socialism mix).

    Ex. of social democracy are scandinavian nations, and various European countries.

    The two terms have unfortunately been used interchangeably in recent times which is sad as they are not the same.

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is not a Democratic Socialist. But a social democrat.
     
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    Simple by keeping taxes down while borrowing money to buy stuff. Two ways out: 1. Raise more money 2. Buy less stuff.
     
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    Democratic socialism is the process by which Hitler was elected. It was also the process by which he was given totalitarian authority. It was all quite legal.
     
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    I've posted the the quote below in the past- it's timely again, with this thread.
    People must realize that we don't live in the today we are making right now- we are in the today we built with our decisions in the past, which are now either helping us or haunting us as they come true. While free money and benefits are always popular, they are an illusion- and borrowing from the future. Not only your future, but your children's and grandchildren's futures.

    From Alexander Tyler, history professor at the University of Edinborough in 1787, speaking about democracy over 2000 years:


    "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.

    A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship."


    "The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:


    From bondage to spiritual faith;
    From spiritual faith to great courage;
    From courage to liberty;
    From liberty to abundance;
    From abundance to complacency;
    From complacency to apathy;
    From apathy to dependence;
    From dependence back into bondage."


    The American republic and democratic nation is now 240 years old. Consider our progress along the path Tyler describes, and you can see we are moving strongly to dependence. If we are not to then pass back into bondage- serious steps must be taken today to reverse the process.




     
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    Democratic socialism is basically from those according to their ability to those according to their need.
     
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    No wonder lefty loves it.
     
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    Tariffs predate the concept of Socialism by a century or so. They also protect you from unfair competition.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At what point do the workers say to the hell with it ------------give me free schidt too!!!!! Then it goes all to Hell.
     
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    To be fair, there were colonies that tried socialism in early America. They didn't call it socialism, but it acted just the same. Those colonies started to fail very quickly.
    https://www.catholicamericanthinker.com/Colonial-Communism.html

    Whats even funnier is that the left, socialist, hate Thanksgiving. I think its because Thanksgiving was a celebration when they learned that socialism doesn't work.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jerryb...led-commune-led-to-thanksgiving/#4c2d10646dfe
     
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    AKA..... communism.
     
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