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I don't think you understand what a states education rank means.

Are you suggesting that the people making below $25k are running around with PhD's?

Idaho is ranked 47 and has one of the lowest rates of violent crime in the country.

Oh and by the way, Maryland is #2 in post graduate degrees, second to Mass., and very high in educational attainment in general.

https://wallethub.com/edu/most-educated-states/31075/#methodology

 

No. I'm saying the more education you have, the less likely you'll turn to crime or violence, despite income. I'm also saying those living in poverty are more likely to turn to crime and tolerate violence.

Take these two factors and they account for violence and crime far better than race.

And back to Detroit, my hometown, the red line districts have been consistently reducing poverty, and not surprisingly crime with it.

 

Then why does one of the states with the 2nd highest post-graduate graduates have a city with 10 times more violent crime than Boston.

What's reduced crime in Detroit is the 2000% or so increase in justified homicide.

 

Because Baltimore is not the entire state. Boston is a far wealthier city, and thus the poverty line is higher and not as many people under it. Baltimore is not as wealthy and the poverty line is lower, but more people living under it. More drugs. More crime.

Look at the median income: Boston is about $60,000. Baltimore is about $30,000. The rest of Maryland is about $70,000.

Sure.

 

Yet two of the highest educated states in the union have vastly different violent crime rates.

I thought education reduced poverty? Why is Maryland so poor if it's so educated?

Mass. violent crime is 1.8% higher than the national median.

Maryland violent crime is 27.5% higher than the national median.

Are you still sure poverty and lack of education causes crime?

Some of our least educated states have the lowest levels of violence.

 

So you can't support your statement with a direct quote from me or anyone else.

Got it.

 

Immigrants come to America for the promise of free stuff.

Why do Democrats insist on painting our law enforcement as murderers Nazis and child molesters?

 

Yep. Education and poverty.

Maryland has a lower poverty rate than the rest of the country. But Baltimore, like Detroit, Chicago, New York City and Atlanta, is famous for the practice of redlining. A practice which only ended, practically speaking, in the 80s.

So this knowledge that you right wingers have that blacks and hispanics are inherently violent criminals, does that help you feel superior?

 

I didn't say that but you keep bringing it up.

Projection?

 

Oh I see, you think I meant "you" in the literal sense. It was more of a royal "you" including those like-minded.

 

You didn't? You're not saying that violent and criminal behavior is attributibal to race?

 

No, I never said that.

That's what's in your mind. Not mine.

Go ahead and point to a post where I claimed "violent and criminal behavior is attributable to race".

 

You're not saying that blacks aren't the only violent people, hispanucs are as well? Far more so than white people?

 

What I said is that they commit more violent crime, which they do.

 

Right. And I attributed that to poverty and lack of education. What did you attribute it to?

 

I said I wasn't going to get into that, since you were both having a difficult time with basic facts and continually trying to misrepresent my statements.

Like you just did.

 

I didn't. You've made it pretty clear what you attribute this behavior to.

 

Then that means you can show me where I said that, like I originally asked.

Keep trying if you want, it's not going to work out for you.

 

It's already worked out. But you can correct me. If not poverty, or lack of education, or race, what do you attribute violent and criminal behavior to?

 

Here, let me show you why it looks that way.

 

No, what you have is me replying to YOUR narrative.

You said white people commit just as many crimes as black people, then listed the safest and whitest states as part of your argument.

You were arguing there was no difference between black and white crime rates. Of course you were wrong about that too.

Then you tried to tie it to poverty and education and lost that too, as there is little difference between the education rates and poverty in Maryland and Massachusetts, yet the differences in violent crime rate are stark in comparison.

 

I said blacks and whites commit the same amount of crime when you control for poverty.

And you attribute that to...

 

Yet Maryland and Massachusetts, along with other states like WV and Idaho, do not support your conclusion.

I've already explained I'm not having that argument, because it will just be more attempted misrepresentation of my statements, as you're already trying to do.

 

You're not giving me much else to go on. You make it pretty clear that this is an issue of race, reject my correlation, but have no explanation of your own.

Not every state is going to support the conclusion I've made. There are always other factors, and even state level is fairly large and clumsy. However, what we see is that areas with high poverty and low education correlates with areas with high crime. Sociologists have long made this correlation, and it's not particularly controversial.

What better explanation can you provide other than blacks aren't the only violent people, hispanics are too.

 

No I'm not giving you anything to work on, for obvious reasons. I'm sure it's frustrating.

I didn't make any statements regarding the violent crime rate as an issue of race, I merely reported factual numbers.

You're the one making it an issue of race, as you continue to do, in order to try and misrepresent my statements again, as you continue to do.

I didn't reject your correlation of education and poverty to crime, I disproved it by comparing and contrasting Maryland and Massachusetts.

I'm sure you'd like me to take your "poverty causes crime" narrative at face value, but I'm not going to do that.

Aside from the obvious flaws I pointed out comparing Maryland and Massachusetts, there is no causal link proven between poverty and crime.

Poverty can be high, while crime can be low. If that is true, then clearly it is not a causal link.

I'll let sociologists tell you why your narrative should not be taken at face value.

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