Trump vs Obama: The Tale of the Hate

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  1. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    I'm srsly stumped on this one...

    Do closet conservatives (liberals) hate Trump more than (declared) conservatives hate/d Obama?

    I'm honestly not sure.

    I think the DCs hate/d Moochelle MORE than the closet conservatives hate Melania, but their husbands...?

    Is it a toss up?

    Is each man equally hated by the conservative group that randomly perceives him as the *TRAITOR!* and *ENEMY!* to/of Murca, or is one hated more?

    I just kind of worry that there isn't enough hate to go around, and that we might run out...
     
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    There is undoubtedly hate out there for the people you’ve mentioned.

    I’d like to remind everyone there are large swaths of people who disagree with policy and ideology and have no hate for individuals.

    I think it’s important to not lump everyone together if progress is the intent of these “hate” threads.
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Probably a different kind of hate.
    Obama teed it up with "I want to fundamentally transform the United States of America".
    Anyone who makes a statement like that pisses off a whole lot of people.
    Michelle was very unlikeable especially after she said "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country"
    Anyone who makes a statement like that pisses off a whole lot of people.
    Couple that with being a minority and you have a lot of haters.

    Trump is hated by both the right and the left as he is a total outsider and a very clumsy one at that. DC hates the unpredictable.
    To me, his wife is not all that likable either but she is not nearly as public as Michelle Obama was.

    In my opinion, the biggest difference between Obama and Trump is the visceral hatred for everything Trump does by the media. He gets kudos for literally nothing but he keeps plowing along which is one of his strong points.

    Where this all goes is of little consequence to me as long as Trump continues getting strong conservative judges on the bench for it is those people that really shape the course of America in the long run.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Some really good comments.

    The OP is NOT worthy! :oops:
     
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    If you remember, Michelle HATED MAERICA as she was FURRIN. Even though she is a Chi-town gal.

    And even though Melania is a commie trophy wife, you don't hear any cracks about her being the Putin mole.
     
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    Do you think that Trump didn't get a fair chance even though he continued to shoot his mouth off after the election?
     
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    Not even close. I know of no mainstream Republicans or conservatives who expressed hatred for Obama. There were probably a few outliers as there are with any president. However, insane unfettered hatred of Trump is mainstream with virtually all Democrat politicos, most media, and some never Trump Republicans. It's an anthill versus the Himalayas.
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A fair chance at what?
     
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    "Hatred" of Obama policies was just that, the policies themselves, despite endless "racist" lie narratives launched at policy opposition. ACA, mandating citizens to buy a good or service or face significant penalties, and many other Obama era initiatives were RADICAL departures enhancing state power at the expense of individual freedom. To date, the Trump Administration, agree or disagree with particular policies, has proposed or done nothing nearly so radical.

    "Hatred" of the Trump Administration, as the perpetual FLIP FLOP and "fill in the blank Orangemanbad" nature of various narratives against him proves unequivocally, is hatred of the very existence of Trump as POTUS, not this or that policy. This is illustrated by all the TDS over completely inconsequential stuff, tweeting "(poor me)," or questioning a kid's belief in Santa as recent of 1000s of examples possible. Even when the Trump Administration does things the LW generally supports (hemp farming) negative narratives instantly emerge and are spammed all over MSM and the net. It's transparent and counterproductive, so I hope they keep doing it.
     
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    Lol...No, you're not. You're more transparent than you think.
    But more importantly, trump has dedicated his time as potus to rigging the system to benefit himself and mindlessly trying to reverse everything Obama did.
     
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    ^ More the kind of comment I was expecting... :blownose:
     
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    When you narrow it to the mainstream, you're absolutely right.

    Though there was that one guy during the State of the Union...
     
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    You had me at hating the ACA. :handshake:
     
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    I really was! :nod: Imma nekkid for all to see? :eek:
    You say that like it's a bad thing. (And in the case of Iran, of course, it is.) :(
     
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    Dirty Donalds intense jealousy of Obama's popularity is to blame for his constant and unmitigated attempts to overturn everything bearing Obama's name.And when he can't he pee's his pants.
     
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    Apples vs. Oranges. Obama is hated because he is not only black but also liberal and democrat, he was hated (ask McConnell) from the day he was elected and now must be erased as much as possible. Yes, I know I will be called a race baiter or whatever but that is simple truth. Trump is hated because of what he says and does, the way he acts and perceived purposeful ignorance of the job....as well as a measure of dishonesty for becoming Republican after decades of being a Dem and his absolute disregard for anything truthful. Melania is disliked for bringing porn into the Oval Office....but she does have nice Tlts, I done seen 'em
     
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    No, that is an expression of the hatred, not the cause. The cause is pure and simply that he won.
     
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    I never hated Obama as a person, his policies however stank like a dead fish on sunny July day.
     
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    Okay...it's nice to know you understand me better than I do(SIC).
     
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    I probably don't understand you at all. I do understand your words, however, as incorrect as they are.
     
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    I was at my daughters house last night when she told me that she had some really bad news for me. I was pretty concerned and I told her that she could tell me anything. That was when she told me that my unmarried grand-daughter was pregnant. I looked strait in her eye and bellowed out " Thank God. I thought you were going to tell me she was becoming a Democrat".
     
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    You do know that Obama didn't accomplish much. Trump was pretty much able to reverse most of Obamas crap, which he implemented in eight years, in less than two years.
     
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    The criminal reform bill the old repukes are going full libo blowapartisanship praising passing was written by the Obama admin

    Trump reveresed.. and dropped the ball.. worst football player in history.. like the dumb ones that run to the enemies goal line and fumble
     
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