REVEALED: Israel’s IDF Used Passenger Airliners as Cover During Christmas Day Attack <MOD WARNING>

Which Gulf of Tonkin are you talking about? August 2nd or August 4th, 1964?

The August 4th one is the famous one where the two U.S. destroyers most certainly NOT fired on by North Vietnamese torpedo boats at night. But it was in no way a false flag operation as the U.S. didn't stage anything. Even LBJ had doubts about it and voiced them.

The August 2nd attack by North Vietnamese boats on a U.S. destroyer though DID HAPPEN. The North Vietnamese themselves openly admitted it both then (they complained that return fire from the destroyer killed one of their boat captains) and years after the fact.

How were the belief that WMDs were in Iraq a "false flag" operation? The U.S. never planted WMDs in Iraq.

Actual "black flag" operations almost never happen in real life for the same reason that while it makes a great story, the police almost never frame a person for a crime. Because if they do attempt to frame someone and then the target turns out to have a solid alibi, then the "frame" points back directly at the police.

Same with alleged lies about WMDs in Iraq. To believe the Bush Admin. lied about them you have to believe that:

1) The Bush admin. lied about WMDs in Iraq.
2) To justify invading Iraq.
3) An invasion that would inevitably expose the lie in the first place.

How was the invasion of Grenada a false flag operation?

And the North Vietnamese were moving supplies to South Vietnam via Laos and Cambodia.

 

Hundreds of American pilots who survived the Vietnam War thanks to Israel might well disagree.

 

Just look at them Jewish State, relentlessly expanding

 

It's awfully early in the year to begin it with telling slanderous falsehoods.

I don't know how "grumpy" economist Thomas R. Stauffer is but he is far more thoroughly educated & trustworthy than America's glut of Hasbara shills.

Since 2002 when Stauffer published his research, America's infestation of Zionist lobbies have succeeded in extracting $Billions more from America's coffers that could go to American Veterans who fight AIPAC's wars for Israel:

“QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”
AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003


So what sort of gratitude does America get from its most ruthless backstabber & insatiable parasite?

Netanyahu: “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away”(*)




"The Real Cost Of US Support For Israel – $3 Trillion"
https://nwoobserver.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/the-real-cost-of-us-support-for-israel-3-trillion/
EXCERPT "“The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion” is a summary of economic research done by Thomas R. Stauffer. Stauffer’s summary of the research was published in the June 2003 issue of The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs.

Stauffer is a Washington, D.C.-based engineer and economist who writes and teaches about the economics of energy and the Middle East. Stauffer has taught at Harvard University and Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service. Stauffer’s findings were first presented at an October 2002 conference sponsored by the U.S. Army College and the University of Maine.

Stauffer’s analysis is “an estimate of the total cost to the U.S. alone of instability and conflict in the region – which emanates from the core Israeli-Palestinian conflict.”

“Total identifiable costs come to almost $3 trillion,” Stauffer says. “About 60 percent, well over half, of those costs – about $1.7 trillion – arose from the U.S. defense of Israel, where most of that amount has been incurred since 1973.”

“Support for Israel comes to $1.8 trillion, including special trade advantages, preferential contracts, or aid buried in other accounts. In addition to the financial outlay, U.S. aid to Israel costs some 275,000 American jobs each year.” The trade-aid imbalance alone with Israel of between $6-10 billion costs about 125,000 American jobs every year, Stauffer says."CONTINUED


Who are Israeli parasites going to prey on when America has "dried up & blown away"?


(*)http://web.archive.org/web/20060512...pecial_Reports/092105Madsen/092105madsen.html

 

I was there for a year, and never saw a single Israeli, in uniform or not.

That doesn't mean there were not any Israelis saving Americans (or whatever you're trying to say), it just means that I never met one, never saw one.

Why should I believe you?

 

And again you doing it to me - WTF is nwoobserver.wordpress or web.archive.org and why should I even consider opening such dubious sources if they can't even spring for a few dollars and get themselves a real domain names?

Stop it

 

Don't. Read the book "Dark Eagles". It said that the captured Soviet built Migs that the Israelis provided the U.S. after the Six Day War for technical evaluation and dissimilar air combat training likely saved the lives of hundreds of American pilots in the skies over North Vietnam.

Do you need a link to the book?

 

You clearly demonstrated in Post #104 that you know nothing about Israel's deliberate massacre of American G.I.s on the USS Liberty so why should anyone believe this nonsense about Israeli's "saving American lives in Viet Nam".

I can support my assertions, why can't you?

 

No, my gullible brother reads that Israeli propaganda, I'll pass.

 

I make one mistake about mixing up the names of two U.S. intelligence ships involved in major international incidents at near the same time and you and others whine about it like 13 year old girls.

Read

https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Eagles-...=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1546357564&sr=1-4

Note, despite the idiot down thread denouncing the book as "Israeli propaganda" the book isn't even about Israel. It is about secret aircraft flown by the U.S. both prototypes and enemy captured ones. The thing about the Soviet built Migs and them being sent to the U.S. by Israel is simply an interesting aside in the book.

 

Nobody is whining about your apparent state of confusion, some are merely commenting on it, specifically, as to your credibility.

 

Aren't you the one promoting the crazy idea that Israel attacked the U.S.S. Liberty to provoke a NUCLEAR attack by the U.S. on Cairo?
That's not just stupid, gullible, or moronic. That's flat out insane.

 

Are you kidding?
America's Zionist dominated, pro Israel MSM (1) would never publish anything critical of Israel so, in order to get a truthful account of aid to Israel you need to rely on independent media.
It's not the source that's important, its the truthfulness of what's being reported.

 

I've never said that sir, or even thought it.

It would be awesome if you could back up your claim, but I know you can't. This is why your credibility is questioned. No whining, just observations.

 

Just because a person has Jewish heritage doesn't mean they are "Zionist dominated".

I'm curious as to just what the Jews did to you to make you so anti Israel?

should the British hate the U.S. for blasting a dozen or so of their soldiers to death in Operation Desert Storm by mistake?

 

Sorry, post #90 in this thread. Another rapid conspiracy nut whose name starts with an "e".

My apologies.

 

That you have never heard of Operation Cyanide is not surprising just as you didn't know anything about the deliberate Israeli attack on the Liberty as demonstrated in Post # 104

"Operation Cyanide: How the Bombing of the USS Liberty Nearly Caused World War Three"
https://www.amazon.com/Operation-Cyanide-Bombing-Liberty-Nearly/dp/1904132197
EXCERPT "The USS Liberty was attacked by unmarked planes and torpedo boats in international waters during the Six Day War between Israel and the Arab States. The attack on the surveillance ship lasted 75 minutes -- 34 men died and 172 were injured. Initially it was thought that either Egypt or the U.S.S.R. was responsible, but astonishingly Israel, the U.S.'s closest ally, said that the planes and boats belonged to them, and that they mistook the ship for an Egyptian vessel -- despite the prominently displayed Stars and Stripes.

This hard-hitting investigation shows that on that day in 1967, the world came closer to all-out nuclear war than ever before -- this incident made the Cuban Missile Crisis seem tame by comparison. Peter Hounam reveals that the attack was part of a clandestine plan between the US and Israel known as "Operation Cyanide," designed to ensure victory for Israel in the Middle East. By blaming the attack on the Arab world, retaliation on a grand scale would be justified.

A massive cover-up has endured to this day -- the attack on the Libertyremains the only maritime incident that has not been investigated by Congress."CONTINUED

 

Why would they care? They own your media so they can just hide any stories they want.

 

I beg to differ.

 

Sure, but in reality they almost always are. And if they weren't (Finklestein, Atzmon) they'd be smeared and ostracised by mainstream Jews.

 

The one that never took place. The lie. That one.

The US planted false proof and false “interrupted” telephone conversation.

1). Absolutely.

2). Exactly.

3). Yes. But Washington never admitted it lied by saying instead, “nobody ever suggested that Irak had WMD’S”. So Washington never gave a **** about being exposed of their lies.

By fabricating a “Communist invasion" of the island.

A completely legal manoeuver. American troops and bombing however, was illegal.

What twisted and contrived logic. You might as well say that thanks to the Germans, the Allies had a successful landing on “D Day”. After all Rommel left his post to be with his wife on her birthday allowing the western allies a relatively easy landing. Furthermore, I am a Vietnam War Veteran so I guess it is the fault of Israel that I had to go to Vietnam and all of the guys who died during my time there (and every day thereafter) were victims of Israel’s contribution to prolonging the war for several more years. It’s your logic.
Also, American pilots over North Vietnam were illegal anyway.

 

It is not theirs, hard for them to understand, with that huge sense of victimhood and entitlement.

 

Not all of Middle Eastern lands were Arabs, and yet they got all of it - almost. Why?

 

Not interested, I am interested in why you think the 5% should go to jews? Should Muslims in Europe be given part of Spain, to change the language and laws?
And could you source your 95% like you have demanded of others?

Now, anything to say on the thread topic of the Jewish State's attack on Syria?

 

Yes, you MAY use my words, as long as you never call me "sir" again. Oh, the outrage

Waddaya mean, second class persons? Like those who can't become peers for life being born in the wrong families?

More ad hominem, yay!