Medicare For All is best way to capitalism:

notice you cant say why it nonsensical? What does that teach you?

 

you missed the point completely we already have socialism so the issue is how to get to capitalism, NOw do you understand?

 

Oh, ......you just switch,.... just like that.
When did that ever happen?

 

nobody said it has happened just that it is far far more likely to happen from Medicare of all than from current system.

 

Two is 100% greater than one, but still a very small number

 

The "why" has been pointed out to you multiple times in this thread.

 

This video explains how we pay for Medicare For All. It is just like we pay for everything in the US.

 

Absolutely!

Of course, you won't be able to point to any nation on earth whose government collapsed when it adopted universal health care.

But it you want to pay a lot more then the rest of the world, get less and less every year ( and continue to see deductibles and copays rise), and take more risk than people, then you're the sucker the insurance companies, pharma companies, and hospital chains are looking for!

 

Op is unintelligible. Socialism is the best way to capitalism¿¿??

 

We already can't afford Medicare in its present form. If you quintuple the number of people covered, our national deficits and debt will rise to unsupportable levels.

But I don't care. Bring the collapse. It just means we'll be able to start fresh without entitlements.

 

Please return your social security check unsigned. Since you want a world without entitlements, you can certainly do without your Social Security or Medicare.

You're exactly the sort of guy that big pharma and the health insurance industry counts on to defend thier wealth!

You yell that we can't afford it. And you (and your employer, if you're still working) are paying twice as much for less.

 

I don't get it either. People seem to think that having a benefit that is part of their wage benefit package is not paying for it. All that portion of the GDP that is spent on health care is still there regardless of the payer. The same people that want the existing system of doling out health care mainly conservative republicans are ok with having corporations that they work for be responsible thru SS for our retirement and our nations healthcare.

Corporations should be free to make money for thier shareholders not be burdened with SS and Healthcare costs. Drop the corporate Tax rate down to 15% with little deductions and treat capital gains as earned income. Freed of these costs American employee costs will be reduced by 30% keeping many jobs here. SS should be replaced by a minimum standard of living at retirement, and with healthcare for all policy issued by the government.

 

The "Medicare-for-All" scam is nothing but a disguised handout welfare fraud.

Refocus: Medicare is an EARNED benefit, payable to all ELIGIBLE persons when they turn 65 years old.

In a recent debate about Medicare is, it was tossed around that everybody gets Medicare when they turn 65, but that comes with conditions:

Part A is free if you or your spouse has worked and paid taxes to Medicare for at least 40 quarters (10 years). If you do not have enough working quarters, you will have to pay a premium for Part A. Part B always has monthly premium. Thus, those who simply want to add everybody else in the country on FOR FREE are simply trying to put the biggest scam over on all of us in the country's history!

When people get 'something for nothing', then, that is what the whole country becomes -- NOTHING... and so does that country's economy!

What we should explore is SINGLE-PAYER! It would create the single largest customer-base in the world, and every large medical insurance sector corporation would have to BID for our business periodically (typically, every three or five years). Thus, we'd have the best coverage, the lowest premiums, the lowest 'co-pays', and the fewest deductions. But essential to making Single-Payer work is that everybody would have to PAY -- no 'subsidies', no welfare handouts, no "credits"! If you're a Single-Payer policy holder it would be because you PAY to be a policy holder. You could drop your coverage anytime you like, and there would be no unconstitutional "penalty" that a person would have to pay for not being a member.

Those who don't/can't/won't be part of the Single-Payer system would get their own healthcare, or, go on Medicaid. Yes, we'd have to keep Medicaid for all "welfare cases"....

 

Like Europe where they pay 40% of what we pay so a very good thing. then with published prices and higher premiums prices would be far lower still. Again a very good thing. Do you understand now?

 

yes, it would be a great way to make them more competitive with our lower wage off shore competitors

 

Money is fungible;he would gladly return it if they returned the money they stole from him!!

 

??? What we can't afford is the current system at $10,000 per head, but we could afford a European system at $3500 per head. We would probably have to hire Europeans socialists to teach us how to run it and how to maintain disciple within the system.

 

how would you get to capitalism?? First, medicare for all, then published prices and higher copays to make it capitalism. Are you still confused?

 

Not through socialism. That doesn't make sense

Never was confused. Socialism is not capitalism.

 

we have socialism now so to get there we have to go through socialism. 1+1=2

 

if I said it was I'll pay you $10,000. BEt???

 

Well we don't really have socialism.

 

If you expect a response more than this please make intelligible responses.

 

dear, you said socialism is not capitalism. The whole world agrees so why did you say it? It would be like saying 1 is not 2. Please think before you post.

 

Medicare medicare Schip VA IHS community clinics etc etc. We really do. Do you understand??