Top House Democrat: 'We can move' on impeachment once public is on our side

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  1. Phantomknight09

    Phantomknight09 Active Member

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    Sickening excuse. If the evidence is so blatant force the issue , and have the senators show their true colors and put their name next to a vote. To say with any certainty that you know the senate won’t convict is just a dumb cop out.

    I would think you would want you reps to actually have spine and use their power the way it’s suppose to be used and not play unnecessary poltical games. It’s not like they can’t have another impeachment vote.
     
  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Stop denying the facts, the proper agency investigated and brought no charges, prove otherwise.
     
  3. Kode

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    Proof of what? I asked you a question which you replied to with an unrelated question. Trouble tracking the conversation? Saying the first thing that comes to mind again?
     
  4. Kode

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    I don't need to play your game. There will be proper follow-up investigations of the data in Mueller's report as he suggested, and results will be published.
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    The Senate and the House have already investigated and found nothing. The proper agency for a criminal investigation already investigated and brought no charges or assertions of criminal acts. The House is not a criminal investigative agency what are they going to find that the trained experienced prosecutors and FBI agents did not in their nonpartisan investigations. The House is NOT a nonpartisan body, it is a highly POLITICAL body and that is what the Democrats are engaged and HIGHLY political act which has nothing to do with the truth.
     
  6. Kode

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    You wish.
     
  7. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Facts aren't wishes, lack of rebutal noted.
     
  8. Kode

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    Nonsense is not worth a rebuttal.
     
  9. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Facts are lack of refutation noted again.
     
  10. Kode

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    Ok, here you go.... most of what you said is not true:

    The Senate is NOT a nonpartisan body. The House had limited time for in-depth investigation. And they decided to wait for Mueller because they would conflict and interfere with each other. Saying they found nothing is disingenuous at best.

    Why didn't you way what "agency" you are referring to? FBI? Congress?

    The proper action of the House is to appoint an investigative committee. You say that's not their job. Do you recall and House Unamerican Activities Committee that investigated "communists"? History offers many examples to prove your objection is not valid.

    The FBI cannot do what Congress can. Read on......

    There is much more in that article.

    Oversight is the responsibility of Congress. The FBI cannot perform oversight of the executive branch. Congress can subpoena tax records, which can be revealing of crimes. And Congress has many more powers that the FBI lacks.

    That is a personal opinion.
     
  11. The Mello Guy

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    Obstruction most likely . Nothing you posted changes that reality.
     
  12. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    SS Mueller never stated that Trump committed obstruction.
     
  13. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    So what? They could impeach on collusion if they wanted to.
     
  14. bendog

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    Imo the dems are making a big league mistake on this. I'm guessing that most people who pay only passing attention go politics are fatigued by the whole Russia/Mueller thing. But their primaries are a half year off, and their socialist wing will decry policies that may attract the middle.
     
  15. bendog

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    I don't thin there's collusion. But Labe is just parroting the LIE that Mueller ruled out Obstruction. Still, the dems need to move on.
     
  16. The Mello Guy

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    Republicans impeached a popular president for trying cover up an affair...and gained seats in the house and won the next presidential election.
    Where is the mistake in impeaching an unpopular president who obstructed an investigation into foreign meddling in our election?
     
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    Correct.
    He -did- list a number of possibly obstructive acts, but could not concretely demonstrate the corrupt intent necessary for those acts to be crimes.
     
  18. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    and the public still isnt on the democrats side
     
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    Absolutely nothing. The President's supporters would still vote him. The voters that hate him will still hate him. There is a strong chance of alienating the independent undecideds who see the farce for what it is though.
     
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    Guess we will disagree on this one. :)
     
  21. MolonLabe2009

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    With no evidence?

    Why would they impeach Trump for obstruction when there is no evidence of such a crime???
     
  22. bendog

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    There's a difference in popularity, but there's a similarity in impeaching for purely political partisanship. Even those of us who really don't like Trump realize his real case for obstruction was ordering his lawyer McGhan to break the law to stonewall. But McGhan covered Trump's enormous ass by not following orders.

    I think most people who aren't dems would prefer to see some interest in making lives better.
     
  23. bendog

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    Isn't there some forum rule about just parroting a lie over and over?
     
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    You’re confusing no evidence with not enough to convict.
     
  25. TOG 6

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    If there were, the Democrat/liberals would almost all be banned by now.
     

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