Amazing: I had never seen Republicans in such disarray

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  1. Robert E Allen

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    Facebook adds had no impact on the results of the 2016 election. Hillary lost because she was a horrible candidate.
    She obstructed justice by destroying evidence while she was being investigated.
    Most of that evidence was hard drives.
    She was also extraordinarily evasive when questioned by Congress.
     
  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes the person is impeached if the evidence proves he committed the acts in the articles of impeachment, and will always be an impeached person for the charges in those articles. The Senate only judges whether the person impeached should then be removed from office.

    The Senate ONLY decides should the impeached person be removed from office, the impeachment remains. You don't really think the decision by the Senate in the case of Clinton was whether or not he committed the offenses do you?
     
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    The report clearly states that the Trump campaign rebuffed efforts by the Russians.

    What don't you understand about the report? No collusion no conspiracy by any Americans.
     
  4. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Right, and under the Mueller Report, Russia intervened in our elections to help Trump get elected
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Mueller report does not say it made a bit a difference.
     
  6. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why? You were the one who mentioned the Mueller report.
    I'm asking you to prove the statement that, not only you said there was proof for, but you even stated what the source for that proof was.

    Your statement was "After an exhaustive 2 year investigation that disagrees with you". The disagreement being that Putin helped elect Trump. It's not a negative (not that it would make any difference, but it's not). Show where it disagrees

    Now... I don't expect you to show it. Because I know for a fact your statement is not true. But then you need to retract that statement.

    You're changing the subject. At no point have I said either that such quote exists or that it doesn't exist. You, on the other hand, made the statement quoted above.[/QUOTE]
     
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  7. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Wrong!

    There was no "conspiracy", but there was collusion.


    Why does the Trump cult talk about the Mueller report but never gives direct and complete quotes? This is why

    The Trump campaign actively sought interaction with the Russians (collusion) But there was not enough evidence to file criminal charges.. But most definitely no rebuffing.

    (Page 9) Second, while the investigation identified numerous links between individuals with ties to the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump Campaign, the evidence was not sufficient to support criminal charges. Among other things, the evidence was not sufficient to charge any Campaign official as an unregistered agent of the Russian government or other Russian principal. And our evidence about the June 9, 2016 meeting and WikiLeaks 's releases of hacked materials was not sufficient to charge a criminal campaign-finance violation. Further, the evidence was not sufficient to charge that any member of the Trump Campaign conspired with representatives of the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 election.
     
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    The Mueller report is a criminal investigation. Not a political poll. You didn't even know that?

    Muller states that the purpose of the Russian attack was to get Trump elected. And Trump did get elected.
     
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    But there is nothing in the Mueller report which says whether the Russians changed the results of the election.
     
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    Yet the findings show, as we already knew, the campaign eagerly accepted Russia's help. What's more, given the narrow victory and the "sweeping and systematic" efforts on the part of Vlad to help his favorite candidate by attacking our country (something Don has done virtually nothing about) we will never know if Vlad's interference made the difference.
     
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    Given the amount which was spent on Hilary, the amount which was spent on Trump and the much smaller amount which the Russians spent, it is doubtful. But we will never know and any claim to the contrary is BS.
     
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    Again: Why would the Mueller report say that?

    The Russians intervened in our elections to help Trump get elected. This was established way before the Mueller Report. It's the reason (or one of the main reasons) why the Mueller investigation was launched.
     
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    Why not, if it had any such proof? I have heard numerous democrats claim that the Russians did change the election results.
     
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    And yet, no proof they changed a single vote. Are you being paid, because its borderline insanity to keep pushing this just for kicks. Its sort of sick ;)
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Mueller is not a democrat. He's a Republican. What part of "that wasn't what Mueller was investigating" are you having so much trouble understanding?
     
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    That's ridiculous. How would "proof that they changed a single vote" look like? How do you prove any propaganda "changes a single vote"?

    The only way to prove that is because the candidate doing more propaganda wins.... Trump won.
     
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    Still having a problem with simple English? Who said anything about Mueller being a democrat?
     
  18. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    We're talking about Mueller, and you talk about Democrats. How am I supposed to know you're just changing the subject?
     
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    You are pretty much confused about everything. I think you can pills to help your brain. I could probably even find some, if you want.
     

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