Supreme Court blocks citizenship question in 2020 census for now

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So your suggestion is that counting all people in the US wouldn't include illegals.

    Of course it would.

    Please don't present obtuse arguments.
     
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    What expectation? When they wrote this they were specifically including slaves, who had no chance of becoming citizens.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    I made no such suggestion.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes you did.

    You said nobody was counting illegals.

    Counting everyone counts illegals.

    Therefore, you presented a ridiculous statement.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    I never said nobody was counting illegals. Stop making up ****. Reading comprehension is really lacking around here at times.
     
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    And was later repealed, while "slaves" was an actual category, such as "illegal alien".

    Also, you'll note that native americans were not counted in the Census, as they had no right to vote.
     
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    I agree, someone who can't comprehend that when you count everyone you also count illegals shows a clear lack of comprehension.
     
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    Of course you count illegals. It takes some third grade reading skills to think I said otherwise
     
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    Wouldn't it be a little disconcerting (mildly) to say "yea" when there's at least a 50-50 chance the gop LIED to the courts about the intent being to boost the power of white votes? I have no guess where this will go, and I don't think the question was necessarily improper, but as Roberts said they don't have to be "naïve."
     
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    Says the guy who said nobody was counting illegals.

    Tell me more.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Please quote where you mistakenly think I said that.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure.

     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Lmao I had a feeling.
    You just need to read it again more slowly. Maybe have an adult explain it to you.
    Nobody is attempting to NOT count illegals. Do you see “not” in there? Do you know what “not” means?
     
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    No I did not.

    Congratulations on finally winning one.
     
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    But I don't understand how that explains the statement that "for every illegal counted an America is marginalized." What it may mean is that when state/federal dollars are allocated for them, those dollars aren't available for other uses. But it's not a "person-for-person" issue. And our elected representatives are supposed to deal with all of it.
     
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    It's kind of hard to make sense out of a senseless decision. Seems like another example of Roberts trying to be judge, legislator, and thought police all at the same time.
     
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    It was a "do it over" decision.
     
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    :roll: Presumption being the questionnaires won't be mailed until Jan. 1 2021. I'm thinking that's a stretch.
     
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    Winning one? The objection is that (D)'s are hell bent on counting illegals as CONSTITUENTS and gerrymandering the EC. Mello needs a "winning" explanation as to why the DNC wants illegals to be represented in national elections when illegals do not have the right to vote.
     
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    Can someone please tell me how and why this ended up at the Supreme Court? And what part of the constitution would've influenced their decision!
     
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    How: The DNC has judges that work directly for the party and they have been disrupting every major part of Pres Trumps agenda so far.
    Why: Democrats depend on judicial activism to accomplish in the courtroom what they cant accomplish on Capitol Hill.
    Constitution: Apparently it wasn't an issue at all.
     
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    Are you referring to the conservative majority Supreme Court?
     
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    No such thing currently exists.
     
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    The constitution requires they be counted. Not even the trump admin is trying to claim they shouldn’t be counted.
     
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    There's no doubt that they should and will be counted ... it's a question of accuracy. The census bureau will have to assume illegals are CONSTITUENTS who are entitled to EC representation. They aren't, and the census without the citizenship declaration is a fraud.
     

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