We Are Being Eaten From Within

You should always remember that in the end, this is all about POWER. The left elites are using the fear of "white supremacy" to gain power and strip away rights. I have never seen the right to free speech on shakier ground and the right to keep and bear arms isn't faring well either. If we lose those two, what is the point of America anymore?

 

I appreciate the polite discussion. My issue is that many of these killers passed background checks while convicted felons either have a cousin with a clean background or just buy a gun illegally. I guess my question is how we get criminals to comply with these laws.

 

I think that is it very disengenuous to try and poo poo the harm caused by White Supremacists by artificially diminishing the deaths of people in large cities or anyone else that is.

 

This purely socioeconomic argument does not appear to be true. First you have the chicken and egg problem of "are people criminal because they are poor, or are they poor because they are criminal". No one has yet demonstrated conclusively which direction that relationship goes.
Second, poor areas like Appalachia, which is the poorest region and 98% white, does not have the same crime rate as Atlanta. It is lower than the national average for violent crime in fact. So poverty alone does not explain anything.

How are we impoverishing Hispanics exactly?

 

It's an honest question. Even if you're to take into account how many the Klan has murdered, it pales in comparison to what minorities have done to each other.

I think @HockeyDad is correct as to why we're so focused on white nationalist types.

 

Well you certainly don't send them this link:
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/parts-and-accessories/parts-by-gun-model/ar-15/complete-build-kits/

 

This thread is about guns?

I thought it was about American MSM's unseemly (aka, racist) obsession with a single iteration of terrorism, and casual disregard of others.

 

You can under mine .. provided you have the ranch to go with it

 

They can't hear you .. their fingers are jammed into their ears.

 

They don't need a link. Guns are simple. Any amateur machinist can make them. 3D printed AR lowers are even cheaper than cheaper than dirt. So far, no one has been able to come up with a law that will mean anything to criminals.

 

You've just been shown that they are 25 times more likely to engage in terrorism, and you dismiss that?

Folks .. this is EXACTLY the casual disregard referred to. The 'Khan Effect'.

 

I don't think they're concerned with justification (anyone can find justification for their evil, given sufficent lust to engage in it). I suspect these fruitloops are thinking more along the lines of 'warning'. Tired of waiting for govt to defend borders with walls and guns (as they apparently need to), perhaps they figure their actions will deter other foreign nationals from attempting infiltration. Like one man citizens militias.

 

Think again. It is a question of motivation and purpose behind the violence.

 

You won't die without the latter, but you may as well be dead without the former.

We should ALL be far more worried about the loss of free speech. Everything we say is on record now .. imagine that in the hands of a despot? And let's not forget - only despots want to control speech (and thereby, thought). Hello North Korea.

 

I work with plenty of very intelligent accomplished minorities.

 

How many of Whites has the White majority killed of each other going back to the Civil War?

 

Of course minorities are accountable. American citizens are largely ignorant of our own history though. My, that was a stupid question that you asked.

 

It's a no brainer. The same mechanisms creating crime create poverty. Both are symptoms of the same disease, IOW.

The reason it 'hasn't been demonstrated conclusively' is political. There is nothing to be gained by telling the truth, whereas there is much to be gained (ie, control) by keeping them guessing. Until someone calls a spade a spade, those inclined have permission for self-pity and victimhood, which in turn reduces the likelihood of the adoption of personal responsibility - all of which, together, provide a steady supply of votes.

 

Or during the World Wars for that matter.

It's not relevant to the question of why we're suddenly pretending there's some epidemic of white nationalists murdering minorities, especially when they're far more harmful to each other than WN's could dream of being.

 

If they're accountable today, why does history matter?

 

I agree with this assessment. "White supremacy" is a boogeyman used to have people surrender their rights in the name of safety. Meanwhile, it seems they take as many steps as they can to make sure it happens. Singling out of white people constantly as uniquely evil or our history as uniquely terrible and saying we should all feel sorry for our racial original sin. Meanwhile telling kids that they are to blame when other groups fail and they need to take responsibility for that....what the hell does someone born in 1997 know about Jim Crow or slavery? My niece thought the civil war was in the 1960's. That is about as much historical understanding they have. All they see is that they are consistently targeted for unfair treatment, while simultaneously being told they are too privileged. If you wanted to cause white supremacy, that is probably the way to do it.

 

You made it sound as if minorities are hapless victims, unable to determine their own destiny. That may have been true at one point, but not today.

You folks need to live in the present, and drop this racism of lowered expectations. It's actually detrimental to minority communities.

 

And how exactly would you propose removing tens if not hundreds of millions of such firearms from circulation, if the public simply refuses to comply, due to understanding that there is simply not enough manpower to force a confiscation effort across the united states?

Exactly what incentive is there to comply with such an effort, instead of simply refusing to comply, and killing those that attempt to force the issue?

 

Hark, Cassandra:

From the wild Irish slums of the 19th century Eastern seaboard, to the riot-torn suburbs of Los Angeles, there is one unmistakable lesson in American history; a community that allows a large number of men to grow up in broken families, dominated by women, never acquiring any stable relationship to male authority, never acquiring any set of rational expectations about the future -- that community asks for and gets chaos. Crime, violence, unrest, disorder -- most particularly the furious, unrestrained lashing out at the whole social structure -- that is not only to be expected; it is very near to inevitable.

-- Daniel Patrick Moynihan, 1965

 

You can't even describe an 'assault weapon'. The joke is on you evidently.