Whats wrong with 'prepping' and why don't leftists do it? (or do they?)

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  1. Steady Pie

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    Prepping is definitely something with diminishing returns. $100 will get you half way to someone spending $10,000 in terms of actual usefulness in a disaster.

    Everyone should have the basics - food, water, emergency shelter, cash, wood or gas for heating and matches for ignition. Beyond that are firearms, fuel, electricity generation, a satellite phone, and goods for barter.

    Too far beyond that and you're wasting money.
     
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    If that was true, you would not vote lefty.
     
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    No insight on medical care in less than 3rd world conditions (where you fly in)?

    Sad you'd pont out gas here.
     
  4. Steady Pie

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    Bad omission on my part for medical care. Why are you opposed to gas? Unlike fuel it will be relatively unaffected by storage for long periods.
     
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    Of course they didn't. Not after it was discovered that one of the reasons for the demise of the Franklin's crew was that lead from the solder that sealed the cans had leached into the food they contained.
     
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    Ditto at 71, and not in the best of health I figure another decade is as good as it gets.
     
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    Prepping and panic buying are not the same.

    Fema tells you that you should have 3 to 5 days of food and water on hand at all times.

    Sane or not is a function of what you are prepping for and that's a function of likelihood of occurrence. Zombie apocalypse is one thing, nuclear Armageddon quite another. Although it should be said that there are items of commonality between the two starting getting away from major centers of population...
     
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    Quite, but the food itself had not gone bad
     
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  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    One being possible and the other not, of course. I've still yet to see the charm of zombies.
     
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    Agreed. I could never understand the whole Zombie thing anyway
     
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    Apart from some useful prepping for natural disasters and emergencies that every sensible person takes, prepping for ww3 and/or the collapse of society is delusional and more indicative of the right-wing mentality of "you're on your own" than the liberal mentality of "we're all in this together".
    That's why hoarding guns and ammo to fight the feds or stocking up a few cans of food for the collapse of civilization is more of a right-wing thing.
     
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    Have you ever experienced a snow storm where it didn't clear out the next day?
     
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    here, it's more about losing electricity, if that happens (usually does in stormy weather) then the stores are closed, & considering most people these days shop daily for dinner, rather than once a week for 7 dinners, they're f*cked. i laugh at them as they walk around in a panic everytime the power goes out, even if for just a few minutes...

    i'm hopeful for an emb or similar, to knock out power for several months, heck an entire year would be great, weed out all those lib loons... darwin style
     
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    I have a well, a generator, and a big propane tanks. That said...if things really fall apart...I have no water after that propane tank runs dry.
     
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    I think it's pretty funny.
     
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    Not every situation is a SHTF situation. If the power is out, the credit/debit card system goes down too. If you have cash, you can still purchase goods. Small bills allows you to get close to paying the purchase without the store needing to make change. I’ve seen this move before.
     
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    In the face of wild fires, many of these precautions seem quite reasonable.

    I had to look up EBT, because I had no idea what that was. I am not on any kind of government benefit at the moment.
     
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    I see things a little differently. I’m kind of an outlier because my location and livelihood depend on being prepared for all manners of disruption. But I and many others I know that try and be prepared do not do it out of self interest. Many do it so that they can support family or friends that wouldn’t have options in a disaster situation.

    I know a guy in hurricane country that spends thousands a year on preparations so that he can help others instead of sitting at home rationing crackers. When storms hit he’s out helping evacuate, rescue, and do welfare checks. He even does maintenance on roads and culverts before government can get there to help. He’s had several displaced families in his home during and after storms. None of this would be possible without preparation.

    If a regional disaster happened I would end up with three more families to care for. In laws and friends. I don’t prepare for SHTF stuff because I think it’s unlikely and impractical. But the nature of my business means I have food for hundreds or thousands for a good period of time. I’m more than willing to share that and use it to help re establish some kind of community.

    TV shows don’t do prepared people justice. I bet there are crazies out there like the shows, but I believe the vast majority of seriously prepared people do it out of love and devotion to others, not out of selfishness.

    In the end, I think that’s sometimes the difference between left and right. They may both care, but the right often puts caring into a more practical form. Actually DOING something in place of just “caring”. Perhaps that’s too broad of a generalization and based on regional/geographic differences, but that’s how it plays out around here.
     
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    Does stocking up in Birkenstocks and therapy bears count as prepping?
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    So, not immoral, just silly or a waste of resources?
     
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    For the example I gave, yes...very silly. For areas that deal with hurricanes, for example, it makes sense to have some provisions in case there is outages for extended periods of time. Any other questions?
     
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    Yes, we had an ice storm that knocked people off the grid for two weeks. If you're not prepared for that you are seriously screwed, and then when the power does come back on you''ll have the joy of dealing with things like the burst pipes in your house. After that, when the plumber is finally able to make it out to your home, you can think of how you could have spent the money you're paying him on the things that would have prevented your pipes from bursting in the first place.

    I'm not prepping for the Apocalypse, Lesh, but even if that did happen I have the land and resources that will enable me to survive long after you're dead. In the meantime, after some hurricane knocks out the power for a week during a 90+ degree heat wave, I'll be sitting in my air-conditioned cottage drinking a cold beer laughing at the dumbasses who are sitting in the dark, sweating their asses off, listening to their wives b*tch about how they have to sit and the dark and sweat their asses off because their husbands were too stupid, lazy and cheap to keep that from happening. :lol:
     
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    I'd like to examine your response a little closer.

    Why would those who are not inclined to own weapons and ammunition, have an issue with someone who wants to, have a problem? It's not like they are taking something away from you.

    There are many degrees of 'stockpile', of which you are not specific. 2 guns? 3? what, exactly, does 'stockpile' equate to? How much ammunition is 'enough', and where do those perimeters come from? Does the number change based on the usage of the ammunition? Caliber? Since ammunition is an expendable commodity, and if disaster were to strike, how can it be judged what is too much, when you don't have to option of replacing what you expend? Does the same theory apply to something like water, or food, that there must be limits on what is 'stockpiled'?
     
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    This thread is about actual preppers. Morons that think they can plan for that Apocalypse.

    And they don't have a prayer. But hey...everyone needs a hobby.

    And if you use your precious propane for A/C you're a bigger fool than they are
     
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    It's about as useful...
     

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