Iran Shot Down The Ukrainian Airliner

No, look at the technical side.
The airliner does not show up on the radar, till it has reached a certain altitude. 5000 feet is not very high, just over 1500 meters. Somebody pulled the trigger, because they were at max alert, without knowing what he was shooting at.
2 big mistakes were made, the plane was not canceled and the trigger happy dumb ass who pulled the trigger and very possible a 3. a disconnect between airport and military.

 

I know for a fact she used to be a member of Pravda Forums, which might explain the resemblance. It's one of the most pro-Russian and Putin-worshipping shitholes on the Internet.

 

Which is naturally wrong. The money belongs to the country and not the government.
Trump does not own the US budget, neither Congress, it belongs to the US.

 

It's true, and Kolomoisky has had a rather - how shall I put it - adversarial relationship with the Russians and the separatists in Ukraine.

Is there something notable about Kolomoisky and the downing of the airplane in Iran - perhaps rumors it was deliberately targeted by Russia's friends in Tehran?

 

Iran is big on hanging gays as well.

 

Yes. Which is seldom mentioned in the current public debate.
Probably because neither side is very comfortable with Kolomoisky's role in the conflict.
Ukraine is an epic dirty mess and everyone who touches it ends up stinking to high heaven.

 

The inherently corrupt ruling political class of every government will always control all the revenue extracted from the productive sector.

 

It is barely possible that it was an "accident", but, IMO, very unlikely.
I would also like to know if Russian technicians were manning or supervising the Tor systems.

 

No it was operated by UIA under a dry lease agreement. It’s owned by the lessors who are established western banks/finance houses who specialise in commercial aircraft lease arrangements.

 

Russia has been a preferred enemy of the USG Deep State since 1945. It's reflexive, and sometimes justified. The administrative elites of both governments have worked very hard to troll each other.
Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan ... . An incredible drain on the resources of both nations that eventually led to the collapse of the USSR, and is undermining the stability of the current Russian regime.

Russia, like Iran should have been trying to find a way to get our Deep State's bullseye off their butts.
Of course, that may be mission impossible.

 

Are you saying that Jeanette got it wrong? Say it ain't so!
I suspect we will hear from her on this soon.

 

Thanks. In that case, I stand corrected. It was the airline (UIA) that Kolomoisky owned.

 

If they were I find it highly unlikely that we'll ever find out about it.

 

Don’t know. The lease signatories and airline would have to be sound in order to get through the institutions on-boarding and KYC protocols

 

That is more logical than what that other fellow said . .

Even Iran would not do this with intent. Their own people were on that craft!

Their people would never accept what iran did if intentional.

The jitters of war.

 

Are you not aware how many protestors they killed recently?

 

With the help of a silly animated gif...

 

Yes. Enemies of the regime backed by CIA. Nipped in the bud.

Typical of the ME. This is reality and thank god I was born in America.

You should not forget how order is maintained there by every country. Iraq and Libya are worse off by removing the regime.

We need to stop stirring up the ****.
And get the hell out. Spending trillions there is the fools errand

 

Yes, they couldn't possibly be ordinary freedom-loving human beings who aren't fond of a brutal, backwards, kleptocratic regime that Ruhollah Khomeini's own hand-picked successor declared "condemned and illegitimate".

 

Trump broke the deal, so now he is responsible for getting a new deal, all on Trump now

 

I agree, many on the right and left have it, Trump does that to people

the constant lies and gas lighting by Trump just triggers some people, some to support him, some to not support him

the only problem I have with the right using those 3 letters is I got in trouble for using them, so I would like to know if they are now allowed again and I can start using them to describe Trump supporters in general that are behaving that way as well, what is fair for one side is fair for the other

 

my guess was it was accidental, this was the first time they used their ballistic missiles like this, Trump allowed them to test the process and show their enemies the power they have in the region, mistakes were made by Iran, but I am sure Iraq and others got the message

 

they made a order from the US for weapons, we never delivered, the money had been held in a bank account to return to them at a later date

 

It wasn't brought down by a balistic missile... It was shot down by a SAM.

 

How are the folks up in your parts taking this, Boom?

I know I'd be hot enough to fry an egg on my face...

(Condolences, BTW)