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WATCH LIVE | Impeachment trial of President Trump continues in Senate (Day 3)

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually he did and why the dem clown show did not interview Croft publicly.
     
    Hoosier8, Jan 23, 2020
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    And extorting foreign governments... a truly busy bee...
     
    Egoboy, Jan 23, 2020
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  3. TurnerAshby

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    He's great at parodies too !!!
     
    TurnerAshby, Jan 23, 2020
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    You know this may all work out for Dems and in that case Schiff would have to be their idol but let's just play hypothetical, if the Dems lose in 2020 you think their will be a part of them Dems who'll hold him responsible?
     
    TurnerAshby, Jan 23, 2020
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    :blushes:ยด " Let them drink milk... !"
     
    James California, Jan 23, 2020
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    No... Schiff has done everything asked of him and more.. the D's will once again have to blame a low information electorate..
     
    Egoboy, Jan 23, 2020
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    They'll probably promote him to Speaker, just to irritate Trump.

    Pretty sure this is Pelosi's last few months as Speaker. She's lost it.
     
    LoneStarGal, Jan 23, 2020
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  8. MrTLegal

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    It does not, but everyone who has investigated the allegations - and that includes US and Ukrainian groups - have found zero evidence of wrongdoing. The most recent coming from a re-review of that data in May of 2019 by the Ukrainian Prosecutor.

    But if you can convince a domestic investigative agency to agree and launch an investigation, go for it.

    And therein lies the problem for trump. Even if he had objective and undeniable evidence that Joe or Huntet Biden had done something felonious (and he does not), then he still is obligated to take that information to his domestic investigative agency and to let them handle the investigation.
     
    MrTLegal, Jan 23, 2020
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    Got some free time in 2019 right after Joe announced his candidacy?
     
    MrTLegal, Jan 23, 2020
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    You mean like this?

    Ukrainian to US prosecutors: Why don't you want our evidence on Democrats?
     
    Hoosier8, Jan 23, 2020
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    Honestly? No. I think there will be enough anger directed at the Republicans and those willing to excuse and covert for trump that Schiff will avoid any blame.
     
    MrTLegal, Jan 23, 2020
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    But if (again it's just a hypothetical) Dems do lose 2020 will your "and more" be something that some Dems will point to?
     
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    MrTLegal, Jan 23, 2020
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    If you define "some" according to the formal logic definition of "at least two," then probably. But also probably not that many more than 2.
     
    MrTLegal, Jan 23, 2020
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    In the scenario where Dems lose 2020? I'd say in that event it'd be a toss up between Schiff and Pelosi. It's a more interesting what if than if republicans lose whose gonna take the most blame..... In that event it would obviously be Trump imo

    I'm not a big fan of looking to outside influences for the reasons things went wrong. I can fix myself/ party but I can't do anything about others
     
    TurnerAshby, Jan 23, 2020
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    ~ The Democrats will blame Putin - of course. ( actually they already are )
     
    James California, Jan 23, 2020
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    Well I meant the more sane ones
     
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    Neat. Go buy a copy and let us know when Giuliani is willing to testify under oath.
     
    MrTLegal, Jan 23, 2020
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    ~ Rudy Giuliani is always ready to talk - that's the problem . :blankstare:
     
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    What did Putin want? Chaos and division. Seems the House Dems are Russian assets.
     
    LoneStarGal, Jan 23, 2020
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    ~ That was the plan all along. I also believe those Pelosi Impeachment Pens are communicators directly from the Kremlin !
     
    James California, Jan 23, 2020
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    Well, if Joe was selling influence, it certainly would make him a more present danger to the US to hold high office, warranting increased attention.
     
    fifthofnovember, Jan 23, 2020
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    You not wrong.
     
    MrTLegal, Jan 23, 2020
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    Well, if Joe was secretly a Russian, it certainly would make him a more present danger to the US to hold high office, warranting increased attention.

    I'm being facetious, but there is no credible evidence that Biden was selling influence or doing anything besides pursuing official US policy. Even if Trump had objective and undeniable evidence that Biden committed a felony, he should have gotten a domestic investigative agency handle that investigation and make the requests for cooperation if it is needed. To do as he did, to go to the foreign government outside the ordinary protocols with a shadow diplomatic team and request an announcement for an investigation against his domestic political opponent while holding up hundreds of millions in military aid and a requested meeting is to invite an investigation for abuse of power.
     
    MrTLegal, Jan 23, 2020
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