Dad Confronts Warren On Student Loan Forgiveness: ‘Can I Have My Money Back?’

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  1. Capt Nice

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    You answered your own question. As they didn't take out a student loan they wouldn't have a student loan to forgive would they?
     
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    No sir, I asked how they would benefit and the answer is that they would not. They would be punished for being responsible while others are rewarded for irresponsibility. This is not a complicated issue.I suggest reading "The little Red Hen"
     
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    And it can't be stated strongly enough ... anyone who is okay with that is motivated by something which has nothing at all to do with 'compassion'.
     
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    Demographics, as in what? You don't think we have our share of immigrants, mentally ill, old, We pretty much mirror the rest of the country, with the exception of the population in rural areas. If anything we have more of our population living in urban cores than most of the nation.

    We have the strictest qualifications and standards in the nation for public education. Our hospitals cost more, but everyone has access, regardless of income. We don't spend billions on stadiums for sports teams, or give billions to relocate here. Besides fishing we don't have natural resources. We invest money in the people.
     
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    The eggs are broken when students are told they must pay back the loans, shoulder their responsibilities, and owe it all to bad advice and a gullible mind.
     
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    My son got a FASFA loan, supplemented it with a track scholarship for which he trained three hours a day, worked nights at a local warehouse while his room mates played video games. They often asked him for help with there studies. He maintained a B+ average and paid off his loan in a couple years. Don't ask him to pay for those "entitled".
     
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    Greedy Professors and Administration love government. Especially if it guarantees student tuition!
     
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    You have a smaller share of the behaviours which bankrupt a state. If you didn't, you wouldn't be doing so well - obviously.

    Hard to fathom that this needs saying.
     
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    So, then don't pay back the loan; what are they going to do to you?? They won't put you in jail due to the cost to taxpayers. The good outweighs the bad.
     
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    Why would I ruin my credit by being an irresponsible loser? Bernie just wants to give everyone a free pass. And if you think erasing debt doesn’t effect anyone you don’t know **** all about the economy or finances. Bernie is giving the middle finger to every responsible person in this country.
     
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    If a small percent of Americans had that deadbeat attitude, we'd be Venezuela in a jiffy!
     
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    Also, it’s why so many people who think like you are broke, have no prospects and are voting for the first guy to give them free stuff. What a joke. Why pay back a loan? Are you kidding? That’s how the housing crisis began. A whole bunch of people not paying back loans they couldn’t afford. They all ****ed us over.
     
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    I wish I was broke. then the government would take care of me.
     
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    Well the right keeps saying that spending money on public ed is wasteflul- we prove it is not so. we proved that we can have everybody insured. we have $13 min wage and jobs are plentiful, restaurants are full 7-11 is doing just fine paying that.
     
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    And What about all those people who go SS in 1936 who worked for 2 years, what about the poor 20 year old who was going to have to work for 45 years to get money from the government. Or al those people in the 60s who were hurt because medicare was needed.

    Now I don't like the idea of wiping out their debt either, but I also think that is a weak ass argument for it not starting a new program.

    I think the interest loan should be converted to the 20 year fed t rate of 2.2% just that would reduce their payments by 25%. There is no reason for the kids to be paying 6-7% for a guaranteed loan.
     
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    Sorry, no idea what any of that means.
     
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    Ive never heard a rational human write that public education is wasteful? Please quote the people who said this? Irresponsible spending can be wasteful but that’s not the same thing.
     
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    Well there is irresponsible spending in every project. But public education funding is widely critized in RW circles.
     
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    That means that the right's arguments are wrong that progressive politics mean economic ruin and social ruination.
     
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    Criticized how? Do you mean that far more is spent on inner city schools than suburban schools? Examples please or simple clarification on what exactly is being criticized and who? Which circles?
     
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    I bought stock once and lost all my money, should I get it back?

    Conversely, I bought stock another time and made a lot, should I give that back, to who?

    Investments don't work that way and education is an investment you make either in yourself or your children.

    The guy will get his money back from his kid's increased income. We will all get Warren's money back by living in a more prosperous country.
     
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  23. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Then why shouldn't it extend to the college years?
     
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    You can't find work as an appraiser?. I know a guy who took art history and makes a good living doing that. Travels all over the world too. It's like gender studies, most people see it as the epitome of useless but Human Resources departments actually recruit from those majors, and it's also very helpful if you're in pre-law..

    STEM isn't the only way to make money.
     
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    Not in Mass they aren't. The suburban schools are much better funded as the schools rely on property tax in Mass. And you certainly understand that they urban kids are not in the same advantages as suburban kids. Much of what is being spent in urban schools have to do with the socio economic deficit that those kids have. We are asking inner city schools to parent kids and not just educate them. And I am sure you have read proposals that the right have for school vouchers so I don't know what more examples that I would need to add to their arguments.
     
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