2 Florida Democrats sue to keep Sanders off primary ballot

It's the Democrats In their world where a man can identify as a woman, Rachel Dolezal can identify as black, Elizabeth Warren can identify as a native American, and Trayvon Martin was an innocent sweet young boy, why can't Bernie identify as a Democrat?

 

Existence is just a social construct.

 

Excellent point.

 

Do these Democrats actually have standing to do this? Its the DNC that determines who is or isn't on their ballot. Sounds like a silly empty gesture and waste of money and the courts time...

 

You wouldn't think there is standing. He signed the DNC document that he is a Democrat and the national party accepted it. You wouldn't think a state could deny him ballot access.

 

I don't see where this is an issue for any court. This is an internal matter for the DNC, and these Congresscritters, not for the courts and certainly not in a manner that airs even more liberal dirty laundry...

 

When has that stopped dems before?

 

Yep. The GOP and DNC are non-profit corporations, with state and local "subsidiaries". Sounds like the suit is filed by two Democrat-registered citizens against the Florida Democratic Party, the state branch....which didn't make the decision and has no control over whom the national party allows to run.

No case there.

 

Actually, at the end of the article, Florida law does allow the state to decide who is on the ballot. Who knew!

Early voting already started though, didn't it?

"Florida law gives political parties leeway to decide which candidates can appear on a party’s primary ballot, and the Florida Democratic Party last year chose to include major candidates with national attention and national reach."

 

They say they want any early votes for Sanders thrown out.

 

They might have a point. Sander's web site states independent, his facebook says independent, Vermont.

Then there is this, does anyone know exactly whether or not Sanders is a Democrat or an independent. Apparently he doesn't know himself.

"Starting with his 2016 presidential campaign, Sanders's announcements suggested that not only was he running as a Democrat, but that he would run as a Democrat in future elections.[360][361][362] When challenged by Clinton about his party commitment, he said, "Of course I am a Democrat and running for the Democratic nomination."[363] Since he remained a Senator elected as an independent, his U.S. Senate website and press materials continued to refer to him as an independent during the campaign and upon his return to the Senate.[364][365] In October 2017, Sanders said he would run for reelection as an independent in 2018 despite pressure to run as a Democrat.[366] His party status became ambiguous again in March 2019 when he signed a formal "loyalty pledge" to the Democratic Party stating that he was a member of the party and would serve as a Democrat if elected president. He signed the pledge the day after he signed paperwork to run as an independent for reelection to the Senate in 2024.[1]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders#Party_affiliations

 

This was predictable given what we saw in 16 from banana republic dems.

This is the kind of party sanders and grassroots are trying to destroy and replace it with a party for the non elites.

 

How will Bernie supporters nationwide respond if the DNC is taking him off the ballot as he's the top candidate?

It would be bad enough if it happened at the convention.

 

~ This could turn into a movie : 'Bernie Goes Nuts' ... '

 

If you dont want the democrat party to die, look the other way, as they decide if your vote should count or not....

 

The DNC has no choice but to take Sanders side in court. This probably won't go anywhere as Vermont just registers folks to vote, no party identification. So basically, Sanders is what he says he is. What the two Democrats in Florida has going for them is on Sanders web page and on his facebook page he identifies himself as an independent, not a Democrat.

Sanders as also registered or filed as an independent for his 2024 senate reelection bid, not as a Democrat. The senate carries Sanders as an independent, not a Democrat. A lot will depend on Florida State law and the bylaws and rules of the Florida Democratic Party. So many if's here. Also, to avoid a three way race for his senate seat in Vermont, the Democrats nominate him, then Sanders turns down their nomination so there will be no Democratic candidate facing him as an independent vs. the Republican.

Sanders has gone to great lengths to keep his independent status. Far as I can tell, Sanders was a member of the Liberty Union Party, then became a independent, a Democrat in 2015-16 to run for the democratic nomination. Then after the general election reverted back to his independent status.

As of 29 Jan 2020, from Sanders own web site. "WASHINGTON, January 29 – Today, Senators Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) and Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) introduced the Prevent Future American Sickness (PFAS) Act to require the cleanup of a class of toxic, so-called “forever chemicals”—known by their acronym PFAS—from America’s drinking water."

As you see, even on his own web site, he is still saying he is an independent. One last thing, if you go to the United States Senate web site which list all 100 senators. Sanders is listed as an independent, not as a Democrat.

https://www.senate.gov/senators/index.htm

I think Sanders should have just changed everything in 2016 when he ran from independent to Democrat, ditched the independent label instead of reverting back to it after the 2016 general election. Filed his reelection paper work as a Democrat and not as an independent, then there would be no question. Does DNC or Democratic Party rules allow an independent to run for their nomination or do they state only democrats. I don't know. But the suit may be decided on that.

If Sanders is removed from the ballot due to being an independent and not a Democrat, all Hades will break loose. Sanders has had five years to get all this cleared up, he just confused everything even more in that time period. So we'll see. I'm no guru when it comes to the courts. Should be interesting.

 

Should be very interesting. I wonder if similar suits will be brought in other states.

There seems to be a lot of interference against Bernie.

Democratic megadonor urges Pelosi and Schumer to pick a candidate in a bid to stop Bernie Sanders
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/02/26...to-pick-candidate-to-stop-bernie-sanders.html

 

Primary voting is a PARTY function not a STATE function. They are held to accommodate political parties. Personally I wish the parties would dispense with the primary system and just hold their state conventions with party members who choose who will be their candidates.

 

This Frivolous "Suit" is going nowhere.

As far as another candidate?

Since Bloomberg and Bernie look like certain losers, anybody who doesn't think that Biden can win (obviously) needs to pursue another candidate.

Why would that surprise anyone?

 

DNC needs to be taken to court along with the state parties

DNC panel adopts rule requiring candidates to run, serve as a Democrat
BY MORGAN GSTALTER - 06/08/18 08:20 PM EDT

"The Democratic National Committee (DNC) adopted a new rule on Friday aimed at keeping outsider candidates like Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) from trying to clinch the Democratic presidential nomination in 2020.

The new rule, adopted by the DNC’s Rules and Bylaws Committee, requires all Democratic presidential candidates to be a member of the Democratic Party, Yahoo News reported.

A presidential candidate running for the Democratic nomination must be a member of the party, accept the Democratic nomination and “run and serve” as a member.

Sanders, who has maintained his status as an independent, fought a tough primary race for the Democratic nomination against eventual presidential candidate Hillary Clinton in 2016."
https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...quiring-candidates-to-run-serve-as-a-democrat

 

´ ~ Nancy P said we we're already in " Armageddon " - maybe Bernie should have run as the ` Resurrection Party ´ ...?
Oh well , too late .

 

Biden won't win. In the mean time-watching the left fight itself will have to do.

 

~ I think many were expecting more from Bloomberg, and are now surprised and disappointed . '

 

Indeed.

 

It's a bit late for that. The horse has already bolted. Trying to rein him in now will only damage them further than they have already damaged themselves.

I wonder if there is even half a brain cell left amongst them. Their actions suggest ... not.