Trump weighs restarting economy despite warnings from U.S. public health officials

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  1. JIMV

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    How? Regardless of what the government does, tens of millions of folk will be broke if this goes on for long and when that happens, those folk will not have the money to go on a buying spree...now think about the other millions who are NOT rehired as their old jobs died with the business that went under during the quarantines...And lets not fail to consider the tens/hundreds of thousands who died...most are too old to have been laid off but they are a significant part of today's economy.
     
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    Which is why the stimulus is important. I don't think you have thought this through very well. Reopening the economy before it's safe to do so is moronic and dangerous.
     
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    Risky...yes, but playing it safe becomes worse if there is no economy to come back to is far worse...When the economy is simply virus prevention, then what happens when we have beaten the virus (for this year at least) ? Do all the unemployed folk who are not in the health care field become health care providers in our new one industry economy?
     
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    You are right that we cannot continue this indefinitely but we must as long as we can. I think we can outlast this virus.
     
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    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/24/politics/trump-approval-rating-coronavirus/index.html

    Your in the minority it appears on your disapproval of his handling of this.

    Your over simplifying for a number of reason, but start with the supply chain from top to bottom. That’s not being completed working from home nor will it occur with a shutdown. You take the supply chain out of the economy and little else matters
     
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    Why do you think that? The number of business tied to that industry is huge and intricate. Many will not survive a long shutdown.
     
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    The supply chain is not affected by the lock down orders. Trucks are still running, warehouses still open. But you know this, right? Are you ignorant or dishonest?
     
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    I know this because there will still be demand for hotels, shows, restaurants, bars, and casinos when its safe to travel again.
     
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    Of course there will be. But how many who did those will no longer be in business to do them again? You don’t know that.
     
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    How does an economy quickly recover when so many are in poverty? Business requires customers that have money to spend. Once an economy falls to a certain point poverty becomes self sustaining and its a very slow and arduous climb out of that hole.
     
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    Demand yes, funds to do so no.
     
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    Again, for at least the third time, this is why the stimulus is important. We can also do things like float mortgage and car payments. There is no reason that previously middle class should necessarily slip into poverty due to the virus restrictions.
     
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    You post that and call me ignorant?

    Manufacturing is part of the supply chain, a if not the key part. Why don’t you see how many place are not doing that before you post about things you do not appear to know much about.

    International transport both exports and imports, part of the chain. Slowing down.

    But like I posted, it does not matter. The economy will reopen, the first steps clearly already being taken from the WH. Thank God we have people with the nerve to make tough calls in offices across the land,
     
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    Tax rich people.

    Standard answer will be applied rather it fits or not.
     
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    So what you seem to be saying is that you want doctors and medical personnel to be put at greater risk so that your flow of pop-tarts is uninterrupted.
     
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    It's killing people with underlying conditions. Publish those conditions. Those who have them could be told to continue to self quarantine and the government can assist them. If need be we can set places up for them to go and the vast, vast majority of Americans can get on with their lives...
     
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    Good, I just took any mention of the economy off Democrat's ability to even mention it. If any Democrat so much as mentions the economy is bad we will declare them as WORSE THAN HITLER, and vote for Trump.

    Whether or not public opinion of the unwashed would figure Democrat ecoterrorists in collusion with China released the virus, depends upon the use of the talking point that this pandemic economy belongs to Trump:
    “But if one thing is sure in climate science, it is that without a global economic meltdown or pandemic, atmospheric CO2 will continue to increase…” (p 225, Doubt and certainty in climate science, Alan Longhurst) https://curryja.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/longhurst-print.pdf

    If the Spanish Flu is any indicator, this thing may be still bad a year from now, it might mutate badly...

    Teaching snot nosed brats to wash their hands and remove bones in the nose to wash face...so they can make toilet paper, may be hard, so let's just live off the 1%, and see how long that lasts.
     
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    Has manufacturing stopped? NO.
     
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    Yeah, let's end food, lessen the load on doctors, die of starvation before we get there. Helps Global Warming too.
     
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    Democrats are hiding Coronavirus relief from Coronavirus victims like they hide hurricane relief from hurricane victims.

    It's all to hurt trump and punish Americans for voting for him.

    If you don't believe this, you're behind the times.
     
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    Pretty ignorant comment about the importance of the supply chain and the economy.

    You or anyone else want to shelter in place then do so.

    What you or they do not have the right to do is make that choice for everyone as the economy falls of a cliff.
     
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    So you have the right to put health workers at risk because it's interfering with your wishes. You are more important than they are.
     
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    What wishes? That the world economy does not go into a depression? You think that is a personal wish?
    Any ideal what kinds of death and destruction would result from that? 10x what the virus could do.
     
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    We can at least do this for 30 days. We're all buying the government time to move to a S. Korea method of vigilant containment. That's the only way to beat this, short of a vaccine or miracle. So the government better ramp up it's testing. Ideally, you would want a test-kit/drive-up test that people in places with community spread (which is most of the country right now) can use every day. Then you have a shot at isolation and tracing. That means testing tens of millions of people multiple times a week, if not once a day.

    After 30 days, it doesn't matter what happens on the healthcare front. Americans just won't tolerate this.
     
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