SERIOUS Compromise between Pro gun and gun control!

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Sackeshi, Mar 30, 2020.

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  1. Sackeshi

    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    You could have tank duels if the state allowed it.

    Aside from WMD's everything else is up to state regulation.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    If there were overwhelming support for repealing the 2A, it would have been done. Anti gun advocates have been trying to subvert the 2A for much of this century with an endless variety of tactics, every thing from continuous attempts at a re- interpretation of the 2A to attempt at slipping incremental anti gun legislation by the public in hopes such legislation isn’t broadly challenged, to demonization propaganda directed at specific classes of firearms or groups, etc. However in all the years of the republic, even during the heights of anti gun support stemming from leveraging high emotions running following tragedies perpetrated by whackos, there has never been strong enough support to generate the confessional support or the support of a sufficient number of state legislatures to mount a serious attempt at repealing the 2A. In fact, the trend has been the opposite with legislation countering anti gun restrictions, including an explosion of states moving to Constitutional Carry (approaching 1/2 of the states in recent years).
    So, you, “will uphold the constitution just leaving out the second amendment. Infact, I will try to pass a bill calling for a convention of states to repeal the second amendment” and “will try to pass a bill calling for a convention of states to repeal the second amendment”. Ok, good luck with that fantasy. Why not work to pass legislation to require people to refrain from violence? You will have the same chance for success.
     
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    Nothing is a bigger wmd than the infringement of rights.
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    The entire campaign position on the part of yourself is that the people should elect you to a position of government, so that you can forcefully deprive them of their constitutional rights, as punishment for them not acting in the manner you believe that they should.
     
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    This only happens in America, when people's lives are too easy.
     
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    Perhaps it is appropriate to hold a mock election for the desired position of government, between the member of Sackeshi, and any other member of the community. Perhaps even myself. Let those who participate present their best campaign for why they should be elected, why they should be elected instead of the other candidate, what makes them the best for consideration, and let the community to the deciding on the matter.
     
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    Levant Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you've already admitted, boasted even, that the Constitution is no concern to you and that you have no plans of upholding any oath to defend it. So, be honest, what other plans would you have since you're not constrained at all by the Constitution?
     
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    Levant Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'd say that you're a joke but your plans won't even raise that high. I have zero fear of you ever getting elected to any national level office, and likely not as dog catcher.

    Babble on all you want. You're just blowing hot air.
     
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    Assault rifles are among the least deadly firearms in America and that is a proven statistic. Rifles of all types are rarely used in crimes. Therefore banning them as a matter of public safety is entirely illogical.
     
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    I'm not running for federal office, im not old enough yet. I'm running for my state legislature.
     
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    Banning auto reload weapons will end mass shootings. So the Assault weapons ban (any gun that automatically reloads) will reduce crime.
     
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    What will such do to address the continued ownership of countless millions of such firearms by the public? Simply declaring such to be illegal will prove insufficient to address the matter, as a great many illegal items and activities are still being utilized by the public without so much as a second thought.

    Without a method of government being able to go in and physically removed the declared contraband material, it is ultimately nothing more than empty talk by one who wants to virtue signal, rather than wanting to do something meaningful.
     
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    For people to hand in and prove all those weapons are gone to have access to the state universal healthcare system.

    Make clear that anyone found inside the state of michigan without a state ID carrying such weapons will be charged with attempting to aid persons of murderous intent and be thrown in jail for 20 to life.

    The Healthcare app that will be used for Michigan care will grant access to the GPS tracking system on the phone allowing the government enforce and charge those who leave the state to buy weapons.
     
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    So revolvers too, they autoload..

    Screw the hell out of your gun hating agenda that denies all the scienc on the subject.

    How about we attack the first ammendment instead. Since nearly all gun crime is gang related simply make it illegal to be part of a gang and then we throw all scumbag gangbangers in prison..
     
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    Your totalitarian schemes to disarm Americans are absolutely frightening to read since there are too many violations of our precious Constitution to count.

    What's next, a Government installed computer chip in your head, mandatory body cameras and GPS ankle bracelet for all government subjects?
     
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    Hell no..
     
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    Unsupportable nonsense.
    Unsupportable nonsense.
     
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    Explain in a detailed manner precisely how such would actually work.

    Such would never pass constitutional muster.

    What if individuals refuse to utilize their phones to managing their healthcare, and instead do it on computers that can stay at the home? Or what is said individuals simply leave their phones at home when traveling out of state for the purchase of purchasing firearms? how would such individuals even purchase firearms, since residents of one state cannot legally purchase and take possession of firearms in another state?
     
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    Really? I'm having gun discussions with a child? I'm sorry; I don't communicate online with children I don't know.
     
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    I'm 23 so no im not a child.
     
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    Unsupportable nonsense.
     
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    Undergo a house and car inspection to make sure no guns are hidden, and check their full purchase history from their banks to make sure all guns are accounted for.

    Well if someone is in the state with an illegal gun, they don't have any proof they they live in the state, and especially those who live in a neighboring state are probably here to sell, and if they are selling illegal guns, that means they are trying to arm criminals.
    1. Don't make a computer option just an app option.
    2. Who can find their way around (unless bordering a state) another state without a GPS.
    3. Straw/private perchases that for some reason don't require the background check.
     
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    Why do you hate the 4th Amendment?
     
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    So gun owners are guilty until proven innocent???


    I think it's great you want to be involved.
    However I strongly recommend you do a couple of things.
    1. Think about things from more than one myopic position. The purpose of being in public service is to serve the public not dictate to them.
    2. Get out in your community see what your neighbors think about issues. Government doesn't exist to push agendas it exsists to represent the people..
     
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    It's not a violation if they agree to the action.
     

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