WE are all Nwords now. You too, will be killed.

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  1. david gullikson

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    Trump Homeland Security official says he believes George Floyd would not have been spared if he were white

    "What I heard in that eight-and-a-half minute clip was someone who was a bully, who is abusing his position of authority and power in the law," Cuccinelli said in reference to a video of Floyd's death.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/07/politics/cnntv-ken-cuccinelli-george-floyd/index.html
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    You right wingers think you are safe in your skin color. You think cops dont do that to DECENT folks. They do, and I am still here to tell about it personally. YOU will be killed, if a cop somehow thinks you are not sucking up to his authority.

    And still the right wing says, hands off the cops, let them clear society of undesirables. NOPE, time to CLEAR THE SWAMP. To put it in words even right wingers can understand.

    The cops IN GENERAL are out of control, due to the training that you ESCALATE, till you kill.
     
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    I have posted the video here before. It shows police in Dallas doing essentially the same thing that happened to Floyd on the ground dying being filmed by body cams. Of course it didn't get any press, well, because the guy who died was white. And well, that doesn't market as well..... Perhaps you should do some research before your hysteria overcomes you.
     
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    So then, you agree? Good.
     
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    Body cams, or witness cams? Remember the body cams dont get reveled to the public like that. So i doubt his family let it slide like you think, or possibly couldn't afford to hire a private autopsy report, so it may have been buried like usual.
     
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    Texas has a lot of history like that..

    If we asked nicely, do you think Mexico would take Texas back?
     
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    The basic tenant of your argument is broken. There really is then nothing to agree with. If it gave you glee that someone might actually agree with you.. sorry.
     
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    Right wing, right wing...sound like a broken record. Hope you get about 30 cent a post.
     
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    They do. And it's a history that democrats and their officers inflicted on the state. Thankfully, those times are changing. Dallas is a very bright blue place here. The fact that it happened in Dallas tells the folks in the state why it happened as well. Democrats cling to their racism. The rest of us try to root it out. For some reason though, in the cities where democrats reign, the people don't understand what they are actually buying with their votes, and these occurrences continue. This also tells the rest of us something.

    Police make bad choices. The idea that somehow you believe that replacing that infra with something entirely different and then expecting entirely different results is either super optimistic or just plain ignorant.
     
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    Not quite sure what he said that offended you....what don't you agree with? When he said the cop was a bully? When he said he understood the mistrust of law enforcement from the African-American community?

    Nor am I sure what your comment has to do at all with what he said. When did he say hands off the cops?
     
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    I am careful not to insult Conservatives, who are stilll patriotic and lucid.
     
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    The problem with the police I believe basically boils down to what the job description is. Most of a city cops day is spent giving people tickets, arresting people for petty crimes, and hassling homeless people.

    A normal person doesn't want to do that stuff. The type of person the job attracts are not the type of people who we want doing the other parts of a cops job, dealing with complicated domestic violence situations, responding to emergencies, gaining the trust of the public.

    If we just changed a cops job description, so they were actually helping people instead of bullying them, you wouldn't have people like the guy who killed George Floyd as a cop because they wouldn't want to do a job that involved things like helping out the homeless, making people feel safe around you.

    You shouldn't even be arresting people for non-violent crimes. It's obvious that violently arresting people was what that guy enjoyed. That shouldnt even be part of the job.
     
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    I dooooooooo agree. Not totally, as it happens to blacks far easier, but in general, you dont suck up to a cop, and he may escalate on you till you resist, and then he gets to kill you.
     
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    Whatever, you rant "right wing" all day long. Try to realize all people are individuals, though I have no hope you can. Ask for a raise.
     
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    Left wingers elect the city mayor.
    Left wingers elect the council.
    Left wingers appoint police superintendent.
    Left wingers support police unions.
    And now suddenly it’s the right wingers who caused this mess? :roflol:

    All right wingers would support abolishing of the public sector unions. Just bring this up to vote and you’ll see the results. But the Democrats will never do that because they do like those donations that police unions give them. Blame right wing! It’s all Trumps fault! Racism!
     
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    I am not sure what your post has to do with the article you linked.....
     
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    I guess we can expect, at least 3 more low quality, partisan threads today...
     
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    I don't remember, but I believe I picked this apart already. And for the life of me, I cannot imagine, ever, that a government that understands that it has the power of legitimate use of force that any replacement for current policing would ever by either effective or non problematic. We already see social services who act more like jack booted thugs than police ever do. Why? There is almost no accountability and the law shields bureaucrats from legal jeopardy irrespective of how egregiously they break the law.
     
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    I recently rode my bike to the bank after midnight to get the rent$. I was pulled over on the sidewalk. I had lights and knew it was BS. The cop tried saying riding on the sidewalk was illegal (straight BS) Well anyways, I kept my hands visible, did not argue and was polite. After ten minutes I was on my way.

    I guarantee, if I would have been like "muh rights"..."you are an fill in the blank..., you are hurassing me" and did shady things with my hands, I would not have been going home and my skin color did not have a damn thing to do with it. It was all about how I responded, even though he just wanted to see if I was drunk/how I would react. Actually had a decent buzz but you would never know it and I realize you can never win a pissing match with a cop, especially by yourself, on the side of the road at midnight.
     
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    When you say 'cops IN GENERAL' you are wrong and exaggerating greatly. Cops, in general, are good people, better than average in temperament. Like any profession, even yours whatever that is, there are always a few bad ones.
     
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    Good people are taught that you escalate till you either kill, or gain compliance.
     
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    Cops should not kill anyone in custody. IN CUSTODY means apprehended and subdued.
    I think you are arguing for nothing.
    The ONLY people who approve of the Police killings are sick people.
    I don't know of anyone who thinks Police brutality is acceptable.

    My Solutions?
    1). DO NOT hire hunters as cops. They have an innate blood lust
    2). Eliminate INTERNAL AFFAIRS and instead have civilian review boards from local ELECTED officials
     
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    VERY FEW Cops have ever done this since the 50's. SOME do, and it needs to be fixed. Why do you exaggerate excessively?
    MOST cops do their jobs properly.
     
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    What the political Left can't seem to wrap its ideology around is that thug-life is a dangerous occupation for anyone . . . Brown, Black, or White; and that when you combine that with a serious drug habit and with resisting arrest, the ol' heart is likely as not to stop ticking even as the ambulance -- which had already been called for -- is on its way. Thug-life is such a low life-expectancy occupation in fact that it's damn near impossible to get life insurance if you admit what you do for a living.
     
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    That maybe the model for leftist, but they are terrorist and frankly not good people.
     
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