End the Scourge of White Supremacy

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  1. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    While I'm at a loss as to what words you think Democrats or other liberals should be saying about honor killings, I can point out that these very leftist groups are talking and taking action.

    https://www.amnestyusa.org/shocking-surge-of-honor-killings-in-pakistan/

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/201...earch-says-about-american-honor-killings.html

    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/o...-stop-honour-killings-201461819244152343.html

    Here's a congressman condemning another type of Honor killing:

    https://www.markey.senate.gov/news/...ngs-of-gay-men-in-chechnya-approved-by-senate
     
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    IMAGINE:

    A World Not White

    and get back to me if it is prancing unicorns on meadowy green hills

    Good series, "Triumph of the West". sort of why it works


    Here is the whole, A&E program/playlist, or read the book :lol:



    Still it remains.

    How Come The White West "system"
    Dominates global affairs today.

    Blame da Jews & principles of proper "banks". Or :flagcanada:








    BTW I do believe it was the Vikings who gave us modern Democracy
    and not the ancient Greeks.

    And that was way before History Channel series, Vikings.
    Yes Boardies ;) there was a Ragnar Lothbrook, Lagatha, Bjorn, Ivar the boneless, just not entirely historically "correct" in the History Channel portrayal. Rollo too.
    Y'see. I have an Encyclopedia Britannic copy right 1911!

    With information so deep I would not share it unfettered on Board.

    Woo - woo


    Moi :oldman:





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  3. George Bailey

    George Bailey Well-Known Member

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    The attached documentary makes other parts of the world seem inferior and helpless without white influence... Dat Racisss!
     
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    YOU did not ever watch this A&E documentary.
    Did you.
     
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    Point was why do chicks separate into groups of like chicks? It is by instinct?
     
  6. Iranian Monitor

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    I don't know about 'chickens' much, but as I mentioned already, I am sure racism draws from certain primordial instincts. The role of racist 'ideology' is to give those instincts a greater role than some competing instincts that are also present in people.

    Wile racism requires an ideology to spread itself effectively, it thrives mostly (not exclusively) among people who need some 'other group' to look down on. And this need of the lower classes is sometimes very effectively manipulated by others for their political agendas.
     
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    The best way to end the scourge of "white" supremacy, is to turn off your TV and stop listening to what the propagandists say.

    Do I deny that "white" supremacists exist? No. Those insignificant few just have no power. The ones who have power are the propagandists who you allow to lead you by the nose.

    Why in the heck do you allow them to manipulate you?
     
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    I understand your point and I agree that there are aspects of ourselves that are so ingrained that we cannot recognize them for what they are. My daughter pointed out that my attitude towards Chinese people is wrong and that made me realize that I was stereotyping albeit unwittingly. I don't know that people of our generation are going to be able to completely rid ourselves of how we were raised but over the subsequent generations those prejudices can be, and must be, eliminated for a diverse community to exist and thrive.
     
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    WRONG again!

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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/10/michelle-obama-nigeria-presidential-address

     
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    Just been reading how the Mongols murdered 11% of all people on earth.

    Just wondering, what "guilt trip" do you think "Whites" have to cope with?
    Do Chinese have any "guilt trip" for their treatment of their Muslims or those
    in Hong Kong TODAY?
    Do Zulus recall how they decimated all the native tribes of southern Africa?
    Do Maoris feel bad about driving the Chatham Island natives into extinction?
    Do Arabs and Africans show any angst about the millions of slaves they had,
    or killed?
    Probably not. Maybe, definitely not.
     
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    What you allude to (even if the history you recount was accurate in all respects, which it isn't) is the difference between those who take examples that put humans very close to the category of animals in their evolution and feel that justifies them continuing to remain as such. And those who aspire to humans evolving into something better. The difference between understanding some of the theories of evolution I shared with you (e.g., Tusi in prose and using a more scholarly methodology or Rumi in poetry using a more spiritual one) many centuries before Darwin -- and simply trying to find a way to deflect from their lessons to make tribal arguments.
     
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    Such reads as if stating minority groups are excused from being expected to feel remorse and shame for the actions of their ancestors, and that white individuals are expected to be held to a higher standard simply because they are white.
     
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    I understood none of this I am afraid.
     
  14. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Well-Known Member

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    If I imagined, for one second, that you had a true intention to understand things, I would try to enlighten you on the subject. For now, let me just this: I am not interested in guilt by any group -- and 'white' or not isn't important to me. I am not focused on race the way you are.
     
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    Naw. Floyd is dead because he was a drug-addled loser.
     
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    Meanwhile, in utopian civilization that is Iran-

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    Look at all that wonderful diversity.

    The Arab slave trade flourished for hundreds of years longer than the Atlantic slave trade and Iran had a booming African slave trade.
    And just look at how well the descendants of those African slaves are represented in Iranian governance today.

    Yes please, Iranian Monitor, please do lecture us more about the ugly face of American racism.

    African Americans have been so terribly repressed and denied a place in American society.

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    We need the great melting pot of Iran to show us how integration and racial harmony is done properly.
     
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  17. Iranian Monitor

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    You can slam Iran all you wish -- as long as you don't promote falsehoods. That is my real issue in all the discussions about any of the subject I see discussed: my interest to make sure falsehood isn't allowed to prevail. The more a group (whether a tribe, a nationality, a a race, etc) becomes the object of ideological propaganda, the more you see narratives which are guided, not by an interest to promote enlightenment, but instead to promote hatred. And, to promote such hatred, by narratives that often rely on falsehoods.

    Iran is by no means a utopia now nor was it utopia in the past. But because I feel an obligation (when confronted with falsehood) to correct it, let me say this on your attempt at deflection regarding Iran:

    1- the African slave trade might have been flourishing in some parts of the Muslim world, but not as much in Iran. The areas in Iran which had a great involvement in the African slave trade, namely the southern provinces in Iran and the port cities of the Persian Gulf, still have a clear imprint from that past among the population of those areas in Iran. A small population relative to the rest of the country, but so-called "Afro-Iranians" are a rather significant and noticeable part of the population in port cities like Bandar Abass and Bushehr.

    2- the racial diversity of Iran is reflected in even the picture you post. Iran, from time immemorial, was the place where different groups mixed and mingled, even if those groups did not include people who could be considered recent African migrants (we are all believed to be descendants from Africans if you go back enough in time).

    3- within many families in Iran, never mind the larger population, between siblings, you see what would be considered 'racial' differences elsewhere in places like America! In fact, if these people whose pictures I post below were dressed up differently, and spoke a different language, and had been born and raised in America, they would probably be classified as coming from different 'racial' groups! Yet, these are the people who have served as president in Iran from the 1980s to the present.

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    Iran's current Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Khamenie, who served as Iran's president before he was appointed as Supreme Leader in 1989. Dressed up differently, the same physical type would be regarded as "white" in America.
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    Hashemi Rafsanjani, Iran's president 1989-1997. Dressed up differently, the same physical type could be considered "Asian" and resemble people Hispanics who have native American background.
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    Mohammad Khatami, Iran's president 1997-2005 Dressed up differently, the same physical type could be regarded as "white" in much of America. Maybe even Ashkenazi Jewish!
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    Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Iran's president 2005-2013. No matter how you dressed him, he would have a hard time passing as 'white' in America (maybe like some of the swarthier Jews), but in some pictures, his complexion looks similar to Obama!
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    Hassan Rouhani, current president of Iran. He could pass as 'white' but also "middle eastern".

    The point is this:
    It might be a HUGE deal (and it was) for America to elect a person who was of mixed recent background (half white, half African), but few in Iran would much notice the differences you have learned to make into such important things!
     
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    Not one single negro.
    Where is their representation in high-ranking Iranian politics?

    If I'm mistaken, please identify the Iranian politicians that are negroes.

    And your argument that there are no negro politicians in Iran because there are no/were no negroes ever in Iran is nonsense.

    Iran, where are your blacks?
     
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    The problem comes from the US and it is years in the making. It has to do with our universities and the liberal professors that have thrown out the very foundation of our country and civilization, so they could remake it in their own image. Well, we see the fruits of that with the violence and destruction that's going on - and it's going to get worse. Prepare for the worse.

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    One should never judge a tree by its stature,
    nor the power of the name it wears.
    One's judgement should only come,
    through the merits of the fruit it bears.-Jeannette




     
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    First, the reason you consider Obama a "negro", instead of focusing on other issues about him, is because of the race consciousness embedded in your culture.

    Second, Afro-Iranians are, in fact, a very small community in Iran overall. That is just a fact and to call it "nonsense" is nonsense. Depending on who you count as "Afro-Iranian", their numbers would vary from a low of a few hundred thousand people (in a country of 85 million) to a high of around 1 million. Outside of some southern port cities and areas in Iran, in the places where 90% of Iran's population live (north and central parts of the country), you could live a full life and never run into a person who would be considered "Afro-Iranian".
     
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    I guess it's easy to ignore the blacks in your nation when they're so marginalized that they have no representation in the governance your nation.

    "Out of sight, out of mind."

    That's racial equality the Iranian way.
     
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    I don't think it's because they are white, but rather because white men are in charge, and our broken and corrupt systems, including systemic racism, are their systems.
     
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    Black supremacy did NOT end well in Detroit.

    Black supremacy did NOT end well in Baltimore.

    Black supremacy did NOT end well in Washington, DC.

    Black supremacy did NOT end well in Newark, NJ.

    Black supremacy did NOT end well in Chicago, Ill.

    Black supremacy did NOT end well in New York, NY.

    Black supremacy did NOT end well in Philadelphia, PA.

    You must have blinders on if you think there are no racist's in the black community, or any community or minority group. Once any group gets an overwhelming majority they stray towards supremacy of that group. It will not be long when a few years down the road that the Hispanic's will be the groups of supremacy.

    The older groups will not go quietly. Example is the current group of white Democrats who are bending over to appease the minority blacks at present. They just want a little more time to hang onto power. You dig into their pasts and you will find many instances of bigotry among them. As much as I disagree with AOC and Omar these are the future of the Democrat party in the next few years. They sense it and so do many of the young. My prediction is that who ever wins the Presidency will not be as big a story as the revolution that is coming to the Democrat Party and the power structure shift.

    I'm on the twilight of my journey, and will miss most of the shift, but I am a believer in lessons from the past. For all you who wish to overthrow our system of government you might ponder what Winston Churchill said : "The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings, the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries".
     
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    Black supremacy ... that's an oxymoron if I ever heard one!
     
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    No one is advocating for your imaginary "black supremacy"!
     

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