Are SJW's bad to hire?

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  1. quiller

    quiller Well-Known Member

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    They don't do it intentionally,. but the people screening their applicants for HR are probably SJWs also. It's today's academia. Ask Mike Adams. Ooops. Don't ask. He proved their point.
     
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    Like their name show it "Social justice warrior", SJW like conflict.
    I tend to consider them as narcissic people that tend to demonize other people to feel themselves good. They tend to see most things under categories (heterosexual or homosexual, transgender or cisgender, race) and relationships of oppressed/oppressor. They love to feel oppressed, and for that, they need oppressors, even made up one.

    You don't want people who want conflicts.

    On a global manner, I would avoid anybody that has a particular taste for conflict or outrage, avoid any political lunatic, either SJW, right winged or left winged racialist and in a general matter, avoid any kind of hothead.
     
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    Our laws now make it more difficult to ask certain questions during a hiring interview. Usually the applicants sent to me for interview had been screened by HR. But sometimes HR would "dump" on you. I once hired a gay guy and later when my boss saw him my boss said, "What is that?" Once interviewing a lady she looked around and asked if there was a water fountain near. She said she needed to take a nerve pill. No, I didn't hire her. I could write a book and I'm glad I'm retired and removed from the HR SJW's.
     
  4. Sanskrit

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    It's an act folks, no one who can read and write English is -that- ^^ naive or disingenuous. They just have nothing meaningful to say but feel they need to say "something" when any of their nonsense-propaganda semantics are questioned.

    "What is it that righties have against Black Lives Matter? Shouldn't that be a good thing, something we all want? Do Black Lives -not- matter?"
    "What is it that righties have against an Affordable Care Act? Should't that be a good thing, don't we all want affordable care?"
    ...and so on.

    To the topic, as a lawyer who practices some employment law as a subset under corporate/financial practice, it depends. For small businesses, SJWs who are VOCAL are a huge problem, bad for morale, etc. Screen them out other than directly wherever possible. Be VERY wary and proactive about their near INFINITE capacity for employment related legal fraud, everything from fake harassment to fair wages, etc.

    For large businesses, though, SJWs are KEY in fooling the public that the very self-serving $$ motives of the company are actually "doing the right thing." For example, the big tech giants know that there is far more likelihood of antitrust action under a Trump type admin or similar, and that they can far more easily BUY crooked Complex Democrats, thus forestalling the threat of antitrust (See Clinton Admin antitrust "unenforcement" that lead DIRECTLY to the 2008 collapse as one of the primary factors) . So it's a no brainer for the large crony companies to feign "social justice" activism that is really competition-crushing and revenue enhancing. They can easily manipulate their waves of moronic SJW AA hires to say, espouse, believe whatever is desired as "Social Justice" because we aren't dealing with very intelligent, aware people after all. They run on emotions, projections, platitudes and bogus semantic nullity.

    They spend BILLIONS of dollars to foist the canard of "well-meaning politics" on the public, and hiring scads of idiot, affirmative action, blue haired, problem glasses-wearing women's and grievance studies grads is actually relatively cheap PR and very effectively HIDES the true intent behind the scenes.
     
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    Oh boy, am I ever.

    Not only do we get all kinds of emails from the CEO and VPs regarding blacks, if you took a look at some of those emails you'd think the cops pulled Floyd out of church and committed a pre planned execution.

    I have to take tons of courses like the one you showed. A recent course was called Unconscious Bias and it features stories from employees and how they are offended by people's bias. Here are two examples:

    A gay man took a position in England and when Brits see his wedding ring they ask how his wife likes London. He's horribly offended that people would assume he's married to a woman.

    In another story a very large black guy tells us how he has to overcome the feelings white people have when they see a large black man. In the post-course survey, I pointed out that this guy pointed out his bias in an anti bias training video.

    On top of the above, everything on our internal corporate website features black people. And when we have to take courses online, and we have a lot, they feature minorities only unless some sort of doofus is needed and then they drag out the white guy. And when there are no people in the training videos, the narrator always has a voice that sounds black. Hey libs, don't bust my balls on this because you know exactly what I mean.

    My company was pretty bad before the floyd incident, now they're kissing the feet of blacks.
     
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    Ha!
    I had to take that course too.
     
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    Yes, there are people on both sides that can show obvious signs that they are likely to be more trouble than its worth.
     
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    Hyperbole. No one wants white men to die, just to learn to share.
     
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    A simple search of their online activities would weed one out and not get one second of my attention if I were hiring. Those individuals usually find their way into a government job where they cannot be fired.
     
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    Okay, how about if your definition of "social justice" is ABOLISH THE POLICE?
     
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    Not when their true actions are not about justice, but about silencing any opinions which do not agree with theirs.

    List of people who have been "Cancelled" by SJW's and their "thought crimes". These are not "righties" either.

    http://www.canceledpeople.com/cancelations

    Sample of list at link:
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    LOL! Leave it to a lawyer to go into unnecessary detail on a fairly simple issue. :mrgreen:

    Companies can avoid hiring someone for a million reasons, some of them fair, many not so fair. They can fire someone for even more millions of reasons. The problem is that most of those reasons are bogus.
     
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    Ah, no answer, but feels the need to post some empty retort anyway. Not surprised given the source. Best quit while you are behind.

    As a matter of legal and statistical fact among the 30 million or so business entities of the U.S., a vast majority of reasons for firing are legitimate, ethical, fair, lawful, etc., with economic reasons well ahead of all other causes of firing at the top of the list. The above is either a product of ignorance or purposeful dishonesty. Not surprised.
     
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    No one wants to hire a perpetually angry person with a permanent chip on their shoulder, walking around all day daring anyone at work to brush up against the chip, much less knock it off.
     
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    Fire them. Do not hire them.

    No one deserves to be fired and not hired for their political opinions. Political Speech other then Hate Speech should be a protected class. Hopefully all states can pass the laws forbidding discrimination based on political opinion (except Hate Speech). Then no one will be fired or not hired for their opinion -- not SJWs, not those who hold Politically Incorrect opinions.

    Until that time comes, cancel proponents of Cancel Culture.
     
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    Brick throwing , Traffic obstruction, Looting , painting graffiti, assaulting inanimate statues. .. these are jobs that SJWs are well suited for
     
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    No one should be not hired/fired for their political opinion. Not SJWs. Not people who engage in Politically Incorrect Speech (except genuine Hate Speech).

    But until Cancel Culture is over, cancel perpetrators of Cancel Culture.
     
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    "kill all men" is extremely popular on Twitter. I monitor the frequency. 2,500 tweets per day containing "kill all men" lately.
     
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    In California, Colorado, and New York, legal off-duty conduct is a protected activity. Here.

    Why not more states?

    No one should be fired for their off-duty political opinion. But while such firing is legal, SJWs should be fired since they support firing and deplatforming.
     
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    I just Googled Mike Adams. He was in an oppressed, minority group on campus: an out of the closet Christian conservative professor. A fierce defender of free speech for over a decade. He was excluded and bullied for holding a diverse view in a place which supposedly supports inclusion, tolerance, and diversity.

    UNCW announced on July 2nd that Adams would "retire" effective August 1st. He was to get a settlement of over $500,000 to leave. On July 23rd he committed suicide.
     
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    Very Sad. RIP.

    As I have said, Totalitarians are Enemies -- not fellow citizens.
     
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    Dr. Adams would have defended the anarchic neo-Marxists right to say that his opinions were wrong and misguided just as much as he was no coward in expressing his opinion that their opinions are wrong and misguided.

    That is what free speech is about: Being able to express your own opinions, no matter how much they may be "perceived" by others as extreme, without having your job threatened and without getting death threats by those who would silence you.

    The Totalitarians do have a right to their opinions. We would hope that more people who disagree with them will speak up and not allow them to continue to cower people into silence. Mike Adams is gone largely because the "silent majority" continues to remain silent. Power of the mob gained through fear and intimidation should not stand.
     
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    Why would I advocate for abolishing the police? Most municiple police departments just need to make changes in how they approach law enforcement, update their methods, and learn to be part of their comminities. Big city police departments should have more officers who actually live in the areas that they patrol. And not all 911 calls require armed officers. There are many things they could change, especially their attitudes towards civilians. Too many see all of us as enemies. That blue line "us vs them" attitude is dangerous and gets people, predominantly black people, killed.
     
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    Actually, it's a product of personal experience. I've never been fired except for economic reasons (downsizing, outsourcing), but I've seen managers make things extremely difficult or unpleasant for coworkers they did not like and wanted to get rid of, hoping they would quit, or transfer to some other group. The dirty tricks I've seen them employ are too numerous to list here.

    I did have one boss who wanted my desk for a protégé and caused all kinds of nonsense, most have to do with retention dates on stored data. He had me before HR on several occasions, but could not convince them that I was the source of the problem. I was meticulous in covering myself, keeping details, emails, coding changes ordered by him, etc. Instead of firing me, they fired him. But not everyone sees that sort of thing coming, and it was very stressful.

    My point is that if your boss wants to get rid of you, and is not an honorable person themselves, they can find a way.
     
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    Twitter is full of people who hate, or want to express hate in an anonymous medium because they are too chicken to be open and honest about it. If you trust anything you find on Twitter, you're being duped.
     

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